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nikko:
We do all share in your pain, because most of us have been there and experienced that.
I think "Ballsburstin"'s comments are right on the mark. All we can do is treat the females like females and not prostitutes. We can show them there is a way out so they don't have to continue to be a working female, but it's up to them on what they want to do.
I agree with everyone that you should walk away from this one.
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Posted on: 3:57 pm on June 17, 2002
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Tyler Durdin
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Nikko: I also have to agree with Brother "Abe Snake" on this (harsh as his comments are, they summarize it all up without the fluff). The comments across the forum have a common theme, and that is that these girls are not "bad" people but merely doing what they can to survive. So, if they happen to come across a guy that is decent enough and will take care of them for the short term (be it a weekend or 6 months), why subject themselves to many customers and the risk of that when they can focus on the one guy that will treat them well. Sure, they may make less money with the one guy but it is at least it's steady, less work and a more enjoyable quality of life for them. There are some girls that are out for just the money and dont care what they have to do to get it but for the most part, I think these girls would like the easier more "enjoyable" path to the money. As one girl once told me when I asked her if she would rather go with an ugly rich guy or a good looking poor guy [I was supposed to be the good looking poor guy  ], she said "you can fall in love with a rich guy as easily as you can with a poor guy". Ouch! I would heed everyone's advice and walk away. Its hard to do now since you are away from the whole scene and just have these memories go over and over in your mind but when you return to BKK, and you find another lovely girl, it will be easier to forget this one.
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Posted on: 8:00 pm on June 17, 2002
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abe snake
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Tyler, My comments were not harsh, only realistic and without the fluff as you said. That's one of the problems with the comments of some of people on this forum - too much bullshit and not enough substance. Get to the point.
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Posted on: 9:35 pm on June 17, 2002
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pinga
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Nikko,
After I read you comments I was thinking about many cases which were similar to yours. Now, you got a valuable feed-back from the brotherhood already. You are not the only one deeply involved in such a weird situation....and you won't be the last one....
We have to understand that LOVE is completely different than BUSINESS, which is the language of the cuties found at MPs or GG-B, etc. Probably you realize now that your cutie might be "supported" by another farang in a montly basis or maybe she is still f_cking around with many other guys after dating with you. No matter the promises you said to each other. She behaved good to you because you were a good guy, not a fool. However, you paid tooooo much and she was taking your arm rather than the hand you kindly offered to her. Another thing....Did you realise why so many TGs offered themselves to accompany their darliongs to the airport? Well, not always because they like their darlings....it is because they can pretend to cry and all those shit....afterwards, the farang will give all his THAI BAHTS left to the TG. I can see this at least twice each time I go to the airport. Every single action has a purpose. Nothing is for free. Yeah, not all are like those but hope you will find the correct one in further.
I did post one experience of a girl sending the same e-mail to at least 4 guys (nearby Clinton Plaza) "reminding" her darlings to send the money. That time the mom was sick and they need TB 5.000 extra.
I must confess that once I was at the room of one of these cuties (model from CP1) having a nice time when the telephone rang and she talked to her european "darling". She told me that this guy was sending her some money on a regualr basis aiming her to stop working at the MP. She bought her an engagement ring as a prove of love....incredible.
As you could read from the brothers, there are several examples of "relationships" which went to hell after several months or even few years of "romance". We can expect a very little hope to really jump into a real and good prospective "long-term relationship" with one of these cuties. I mean, a good relationship not based upon money deliveries, trips around, expensive purchases and money for ill relatives.
The following is the summary of the issue (quoted by brother Big DUSA): "....Remember this phrase; When I pay a girl for services rendered, it's a business deal, not romance!!...." However, YES, you can find a very good one sometimes. Not all of them are spoiled. We only need to go to the appropriate place.
This is a personal point of view, you may disagree. CHEERS!!!!
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Posted on: 1:43 am on June 18, 2002
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DongJuan
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Well said Brother Pinga. Think I might have known that girl who was asking you for money for her "sick relative". Experienced something similar during my LOS "virgin" days in the mid-90's. Certainly leaves a lasting, perhaps 'jaded' impression and makes one more careful next go around about what the TG's real intentions and motives are......
DJ
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Posted on: 2:09 am on June 18, 2002
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chrisboy
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nikko.....i'm sorry for u!!! i think u besides $$$ u gave her your emotions and feelings too! its always easier said and done, but its very very difficult to control yourself when feelings r involved! i'm in a same situation myself and has been very very miserable since. i went to a nite club (back home) and met this wonderful hostess, and she different from others, in terms of looks and others. she doesnt let u touch her and is very professional with her job as a lounge hostess. well, being attracted to her, i naturally kept going back, and trust me its not cheap to visit such clubs, US$250 for a bottle of brandy excluding tips. well, we hit it off very well and i began to see her outside ( which she says is better cos she doesnt want me to spend unnecessay $$) all this was months ago.... and we were really close....and i even accecpted the facts that shes a single mother and her job as well! we even planned about the future!now, shes ignoring me completely! not answering my calls and messages!!! i really cant get over it guys! till now, i don even know whats wrong, have i been taken for a ride, my feelings being played or shes backing out?? i really wanna give it up, but what if she needs some time for herself or things r moving too fast? i'm really confused. guess comes july i'll be on my way to BKK to get over it. u r not alone Nikko..... lesson learnt here is, like what Pinga had said, love is completly different from bussiness, never mix them together!!! gotta draw a line somewhere!!! regards.
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Posted on: 2:25 am on June 18, 2002
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nikko
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Thanks to the brotherhood for all the replies and the wake up call. Ý
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Posted on: 12:18 pm on June 18, 2002
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BigDUSA
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1000 to 1500 is bullshit. If your refering to the price paid for services rendered, your mistakened. I only pay 500 S/T, 1000 L/T plus breakfast and 50 for the tut-tut home. I've been to Thailand 6 times, comming back in July for 25 nights. I overpaid a little on my 1st trip. Once I talked to the expats and got dialed into the prices, I've paid alot less money for the same services then many on this forum. Cost is not the be all, end all, I just don't like to overpay. I don't cheat girls either but I will bargin for a better price. How do I know the girls are not unhappy with me, I've never been turned down for a second go round. One other thing 300 to 500 tip to mamasan is at least a days wages. No wonder they remember customers. The most I've ever done was buy a beer. I understand everyone has their own style but Jesus give us poorer guys a break and don't s throw money around like a drunken sailor
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Posted on: 2:33 pm on June 18, 2002
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DongJuan
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BigDUSA,
You make a good point. I keep reminding myself that LOS is not Hong Kong, Korea or Tokyo (where it IS customary to grease the skids with mamasans who don't even blink when you slip them a 100USD to build "good will".) You are absolutely right though. To each his own, but big spenders shouldn't be passing it out like it grows on trees....
DJ
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Posted on: 11:55 pm on June 18, 2002
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blade
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emotionally, its very hard to compete with working girls as they have already gone through loads of experience with many men. it is only up to us to keep our guard by thinking on a proper perspective. i think one of the best signals that they're really falling for us is when they introduce us to their families. furthermore, thai women needs constant affection and coming to thailand once in a while cannot guarantee that she will remain the same. imagine, how many more guys would fall for her when you just left - farang and locals alike. Speaking of local guys, working girls are good targets for them since they see these girls as milking cows. Just the other day, a very attractive lady (working at Thaniya road) slapped her boyfriend many times in front of the crowd and very mad at him 'coz he wrecked the car and lost the mobile phone she just bought for him and to top it all, she's wondering why he is at such place at an unholy hour.
I also have a Thai friend who is being taken cared by his working gf - he does all the laundry, cleans the house, etc. and picks her up during closing time. He doesn't mind whenever she's going out with a customer but he said that he loves her - i don't know how does that work really. Anyway, I also think that working girls needs a local bf to keep her company and protect her in times of need. This is only my observation.
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Posted on: 11:53 pm on Aug. 15, 2002
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