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MrJoe
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This may be a controversial topic and uncomfortable for some. Perhaps everyone will just ignore this thread (which is fine with me), but I want to pose a question;
We talk about the foolishness of the guys who sponsor girls, and some of us complain about the untrustworthy nature of TGs, but I'm curious: What do the bros think about guys who knowingly shag girls who have guys sponsoring them/or are "in love" with them?
I would love to hear from both bros located in LOS and not. (I'm wondering about any difference.)
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:10 pm on Aug. 20, 2002
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bkkz
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MrJoe,
If the girls are willing to open up to you on the first day, most of the girls who are freelancing do probably have a sponsor somewhere. I have across and taken back, so many from CM2, that have sponsors from all over the world. Why are they still in CM2 when they already have that money. Well, some say, that they do not have enough to spend. Some say, that they are bored, and because they have the money they are not desparate for a customer, and they can pick and choose. Remember, sponsors are miles away, and you are just inches from them in the disco! 
BK
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 1:56 am on Aug. 21, 2002
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griffin
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good topic! this situation happened to me just yesterday! well very twisted feelings about that. there a 2 girls who i know that do get sponsored a very significant amount. both the sponsors do no0t have much time for their girls so they tend to go out a lot to look for some entertainment.
both of them call me regulary for a night out etc. usually i go out with them and sometimes i and in bed with tehm being fully aware of the situation that they have a sponsor.
but my mood towards this has changed a bit recently. not that i do not like freebies anymore but i just do not feel comfortable anymore, as do not want to be the guy screwing up their sponsorships. both are nice girls and i really care for them. so one from last night i sent home outside of my condo, with the remark better to think about her boyfriend. the other one i hooked up with somebody else a couple of days before when i met her in cm2. this lucky swedish fellow i past her over was sure happy for the free one, but at least i am not guilty anymore ruining her reputation!
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:02 am on Aug. 21, 2002
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MrJoe
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BK,
Thanks for the input but do'nt worry about me - I dealt with the issue many years ago and I'm fairly secure with my position on it. (Although like griffin I'm not entirely comfortable.) ŻAlso I'm not sure what you meant about the first day?
My reason for the post was more to hear what the other bros feel - especially the ones who get all worked up about how you can't trust Thai girls, or the ones who are sponsoring someone they believe (or want to) they can trust. ŻAnd yes, I expect those guys (like you and me) who live in LOS might not be so scrupulous about things.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 2:17 am on Aug. 21, 2002
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bkkz
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Mr Joe,
Well, I have been on both ends of the spectrum. I have been a sponsor before, mind you, I am living here. There was once when I tried calling my TG, and she didn't answer her phone. It got me suspicious. But I left it at that. Then that very same night when I was out with my friends for a few drinks in CM2, I see her wriggling her body around another guy. Boy I was furious, so I took her friend back instead! The silly thing, she couldn't choose another place to play around. It took a couple of silly incidents before I dumped her. Interesting thing though, I ended up screwing all of her friends in the process.
It is really difficult to trust these girls, unless you see them almost everyday. Once out of sight, what they do is anyone's guess.
BK
p/s: "first day" actually, it should be "first time". What I meant was that these girls actually tell me that they have a sponsor and how much they get, just from the first meeting and screw. I am very inquisitive...
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:27 am on Aug. 21, 2002
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Ballsburstin
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Well, as a current sponsor, I suppose I should weigh in (I'll try not to babble, rant, or dribble).
When I decided to sponsor my current TG, she talked about continuing as a free lancer, albeit at the go-go bar where she used to work, so that she could earn enough to make ends meet. She had a good relationship with the owner, and he gave her the green light to do this. So we talked about what an appropriate sponsorship amount really should be, and she decided not to free lance. The thought of her free lancing, per se, didn't really bother me, as I'm not so jealous about the sex thing. After all, I met her at the go-go bar, and developed our relationship while she was still working.
What was obvious though, is that she was there, and I'm still over here in the States. She was clearly looking for an exit from the bar scene, and it was becoming clear to me that I had to make up my mind about what to do: to sponsor, or not to sponser. And, in many ways, Thai ladies equate financial support with love, and vice-versa: this raised the very real possiblity of someone else pulling her out of the go-go scene completely, if I didn't. So we had a long and realisitic talk about her budget. And that was the "end" of her go-go BG career.
Bottom line is, I doubt she is free lancing, but there's nothing to prevent it, and nothing I could do to stop it (again, she's there, and I'm here). So I don't sweat it. Like all TG's, she misses the social maelstrom of the club scene (she's not yet an old fart), and that might cause her to dally, unbeknownst to me. So I restate my earlier comment from another thread -- what I don't know won't hurt me. And if any of the brothers are lucky enough to have spent/spend time with her, they would get what I do: a wonderful time with a warm-hearted and beautiful lady.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:35 am on Aug. 21, 2002
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zzzZ
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ballsburtin -- lot's of wisdom there, man. I'm in a similar situation and you gotta look at it like that. I think it is possible to trust a TG, as long as you talk about stuff and set some realistic groundrules that don't doom the relationship from the start. And that means understanding something about TG's and Thai society as well as what most farangs are up to there. Newbies are in for a real rough ride if not careful.
Luckily for me, I didn't get in a situation where I cared for a TG until 35+ trips to LOS and 10 years in Asia (and I thought I was too wise to really fall for a TG!).
But to get back on the thread, I think most farang behave pretty badly in LOS. Now, no issues with the whole bar or sex thing. What I mean is that a typical farang in BKK will have no problem hitting on your girl when you are out with her...either every time you go to the bathroom or even in front of you. They either assume all the girls must be working, or they just don't give a shit. But there is no way these guys would do this at home, and no way they would do it and not get their faces busted. For some reason "all rules of western society" tend to be off for many farangs in LOS. I just don't get that. There are so many girls to go around I just don't understand that part of the scene, and have to admit it pisses me off now that I have a rather attractive TG that I care about (non-BG, but she did a bit of freelance before I met her).
So, even if she wants to be faithful, there's an endless supply of dudes trying to break her will (and no doubt many of them succeed in doing that). There's always a richer, betterlooking guy around the corner that just wants a good shag, so that adds a lot of stress that just ain't necessary...
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:47 am on Aug. 21, 2002
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BigDUSA
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zzzZ & BB,
I'm bringing a friend to BKK & Pattaya for a week. One of the few ground rules I'm going to lay on him other then being VERY repectfull toward the King. If he see's a women with a guy don't make a move. No matter if she makes eye contact, smiles, waves etc. Why get into a hassle 10k away from home?
Trust is a interesting question when you first start getting to know a person. IMHO it takes a long time for me to trust someone especially with my heart. Nobody helps another person be unfaithful, they do it all on there own!!
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:21 am on Aug. 21, 2002
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zzzZ
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BigD -- yes, you are right, people make their own decision to be unfaithful. however, i do believe environment has a strong influence on what happens. And LOS is a strong environment!!!
And you are right that trust has to be earned. If you can make it with a TG I think the trust factor in the end will be pretty damn strong...
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 9:32 am on Aug. 21, 2002
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MrJoe
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WHOOPS I started to send this a couple hours ago and then... CRASH!
BallsB,
You are far too emotionally secure and well adjusted for this thread. I was looking for more controversy!! Seriously though, I sincerely commend you.
Excellent post from the Z as well, but I just wanted to make it clear - My question was strictly confined to when the sponsor/boyfriend is away and more importantly (I should have specified) there is no coercion or even persuasion involved. I think we all know that at least some of the girls (I won't get into what percentage-that's another thread.), are all too eager to cheat, and THEY will make it happen. (I have my views as to why but that too is another thread.)
I'm not trying to make any excuses for anyone, but I do make a distinction between accepting a TG's offer and "trying to break her will".
BTW The phenomena you're talking about ("...farang in BKK will have no problem hitting on your girl when you are out with her...either every time you go to the bathroom or even in front of you.", etc) REALLY pisses me off as well. (I used to get that experience a lot in Pattaya). There is no excuse for that. It's just not civilized in any context and one of the few situations where I tend to feel violence is not entirely unjustified.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:34 am on Aug. 21, 2002
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