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BIG BEEFA
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LivinLOS
Thanks for your input, in my case what you're saying is to let this tg know that I'm only interested in her for a sexual relationship and if she wants this relationship to continue she has to do better in the sack as there is plenty of choice out - so to speak.
This is what you call an honest approach and that if I take this road there'll be no problem?
Beefa
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Posted on: 12:22 pm on May 11, 2004
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shark68
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Hi Beefa,
maybe I might throw my 2 satang in...
LivinLOS is 100% right.
I have made the xperience that being honest to the girls gives you 1. a better feeling
2. the relationship to them is getting on better
3. you spare yourself trouble in the long run
Before I met my TGF that I am dating now for 3 years, I used to ramble around a lot  , I was dating up top 4 girls at the same time (not from the P4P business)... already when being out with them the first time, when they were asking if I was a butterfly
(chao chu) I frankly admitted...'Yes I am I have 3 GFs, do you want to be No 4?..
As soon as they knew, I just wanted to have fun and I was no potential boyfriend or sponsor or such the relationship got easier, as everybody involved knew it was just for fun 
Even with a girl falling in love with me, she knew where she is at and could be prepared emotionally.
I think the same set of behaviour is it for P4P girls, when they know you are no potential boyfriend, all this 'jealousy' thing will stop.
Have a try and enjoy 
shark68
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Posted on: 2:13 pm on May 11, 2004
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Chompoo
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Beefa, I think you can be a little more tactful than telling her she is just a sex object. If you must discuss it with her directly then just tell her you want to have a good time (sanuk) and that her style is not compatible with yours. If she wants to push and tell you that you're a butterfly, sex freak or whatever, then just roll your eyes and walk away. But in that case she is either totally clueless or a manipulating bitch, neither of whom are worth feeling guilty over.
Much of the responsibility for the "starfish" response falls upon the guy. If you pick up a nice girl and treat her as if you were on a first date (i.e. innocent flirting,...), then it is naive to think she will turn into a wildcat when you get back to the room. If this is your style then you have to expect some shyness and it is your responsibility to loosen her up by telling her how beautiful she is, taking things slowly,.... If she still doesn't respond then you have the choice of just letting it go and writing her off, or of visibly or verbally showing your frustration and unhappiness; which may not help you, but hopefully might help the next guy (and her career).
If you're not looking for the GFE and want to be sure she is going to perform like an animal then, IMO, you should be a lot more forward in the bar. Talk dirty to her, see how far you can go in feeling her up,..., so you know what you are getting into (literally and figuratively).
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Posted on: 4:30 pm on May 11, 2004
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BIG BEEFA
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I thank everyone for their input but I've got another question to do with the same girl.
There's another TG that works at the same bar as 'shy girl' who I would like to BF, 'shy girl' knew that I was showing an interest in her friend. Everytime I look at her 'shy girl' would call me butterfly, I also took a picture of her friend from my digital camera and everytime we came to her friends picture she would call me a butterfly.
I also started teasing 'shy girl' by dancing with her friend and putting my arm around her, after a while it was suggested that I take both girls and both girls were in agreement, it would've been ideal for me, but I came to the conclusion that it was a test for me to see if I would butterfly or not so after a bit of contemplation I declined the offer.
Did I do the right thing or should I be kicking myself, what are the chances of taking 'shy girl's' friend on my next trip on her own or would 'shy girl's' friend decline as to advoid conflict.
The bar the girls work at is a tiny bar with only about 8-10 tg's working there, so the girls work close together.
I'm more attracted to 'shy girl's' friend then to 'shy girl'.
Maybe one way is to get 'shy girl to dump me, but not in a way that her friend would dislike me.
What would you guys do?
I know there's plenty of girls in Pattaya but there's just something about 'shy girl's' friend that I like, not like other tg's I've met, if thing's go well I would like her to be my Pattaya regular.
Beefa
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Posted on: 11:51 am on May 14, 2004
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Chompoo
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What would you guys do?
Find a new bar.
Seriously, I am constantly amazed by how many guys choose to make their lives much more "interesting" than they need to be.
I think you absolutely did the right thing by not going for the 3way. Not only would it have made your future relationship with either girl much more complicated (read painful), but it almost certainly wouldn't have been a great sexual experience (although it might have been an interesting social experiment). If you think ShyGirl was shy with just you, wait until she is with a friend; and most likely the new girl is going to be more inhibited by the presence of ShyGirl.
You're not a complete rookie, so I hope this doesn't sound like lecturing (although perhaps it may be useful for others who might be completely noobs).
This is not Idaho or North Carolina (or even Birmingham or Manchester). In farangland, when you find a cute girl who is compatible with your style and for whatever reason seems to tolerate your BS, you go out of your way to make her yours and stick with her. You may not get so lucky again (or at least not very often).
But these girls are all over the place in Thailand. You may not find her in the very next bar, but if you have even a tiny bit of patience you'll find one just as good (and probably better) relatively soon. (This isn't a blanket statement about the quality of Thai bargirls vs. farang girls, just the nature of the overall situation.)
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Posted on: 1:27 pm on May 14, 2004
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ThaidUp
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Chompoo is spot on. I have made it a personnal rule on having only one girl per bar. This alleviates all the self made "drama". Life is short who has time for the drama.
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Posted on: 10:19 pm on May 14, 2004
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expatchuck
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My suggestion....go for the 3 way and THEN find a new bar. 
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Posted on: 12:57 am on May 15, 2004
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LivinLOS
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@expatchuck LOL !!!
Back to the question directed at me a few back... Yes quite simply being honest in your intentions and desires seems to have saved me from countless headaches. Yes perhaps I have lost a girl who wanted something different or more but I have also not had to put up with (many) of those screaming arguments that follow many misconducts, remember I live here and Patong is a much smaller community than BKK... I often walk into a disco and meet 4 or 5 of my semi regulars or historical girls at once !!! By being honest I can buy a couple of drinks... Flirt a bit, and choose or grab a new one.
As to your new question... Find another bar. You really mean to tell me that from 8 girls the only 2 in Thailand that have caught your eye both work in the same joint... Get out and taste a few other places.
On the 3 way, I have a new girl who has started to work into regular rotation and is now a freebie... We were waking up 2 days ago and it was early (for me) at about 1 or 2 but she said she had lots to get ready for as her sister was arriving that day. Sister was described as "Sooo Souay" and I of course joked (maybe) so when you bring your sister for me ?? That got a sideways look and a "you want her ?" to which the only reply I considered valid was "I want you both" !!! She kinda laughed slapped me and then told me "OK but you may have to pay her !!"
Now aint that a tester ?? Thing is I cant really belive 2 sisters are likely to get down and dirty and 3 way experience has shown me that its vital to get 2 girls that really enjoy girls rather than just pretend. I figure I will pass this test and keep my new little freebie...
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Posted on: 2:09 am on May 15, 2004
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Abrak
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I spend 80% of the time in BKK and 20% in Phuket and I think you can apply very different rules to the 2 places.
I think the Patong scene - particularly freelancer joints, Bananas, Taipan and Tiger - is fantastic. (Dont think BKK has anything to compare....certainly not CM2). But as you point out the place is incredibly small. If you are not careful you can easily end up having 'used' all the good places within a week or less.
With Bangkok you can go to a different place every single night... and even if you go back to the same places, it is rare to see the same girls. This gives you a lot more freedom on how you approach the girls... simply because you are never likely to see them again if you dont want.
PM me if you want to meet up in Phuket sometime
(will be there next Mon to Wed 24th-26th)
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Posted on: 2:31 am on May 15, 2004
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LivinLOS
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Yeah agreed... Personally I dont have much BKK experience, what I have seen of it just seemed too professional than my preferences go. I like the discos and more of a pick up (freelancer) system.
The Dragon disco is the new main meat market as due to its owners having connections its generally a +5AM shutdown v 2.30 - 3 at other places max... after that even safari is shut and your down to the Jungle bar and underground for the 5 - 7AM session (rarely talent there or at that time need to have landed one by then)...
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Posted on: 2:42 am on May 15, 2004
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