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dirty guru
I also made it clear to x....that i didnt use a video phone, in the said instance( or anything else) to record a situation with a girl . But i raised the question of her consent being the factor that over rides the question of ""should they be used for this purpose? ""The instances here seems to be about a similar question. I have seen personal letters reprinted, and it seems to hinge on" that ""consideration.


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Posted on: 10:27 pm on Aug. 27, 2003
The Machine
Well there certainly seems to be a strong reaction to this mail that was printed re the moral rights or wrongs of printiing such material. I will leave it to the committee of ethics and morals to decide on that one.
I would like to focus on the substance of the mail.
If you have unprotected sex you could get an unwelcome disease.
Is this earth shattering news?
Because you find out that a BG you once slept with had an STD you will no longer sleep with her.
It seems  to me there are more deep seated issues lying here.
Could it be  you mistook a business relationship for a real one and are using the pretext of this STD to blame the girl for destroying a relationship yoou never really had or had only in your  mind?
By accessing her mail you seem to have taken some proprietorial rights over her and also formed an attachment that does not sit with the business relationship that you originally contracted with the girl.
Maybe you need to look at your behaviour and question what your true intentions are.


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Posted on: 12:27 am on Aug. 28, 2003
cmore

Quote: from X on 7:51 am on Aug. 28, 2003

Ýi.e I donít give it out my password to other people, I logout of my email account when using a shared computer to view email etc? ÝLike the same way I donít have a leg to stand on if I give you my P.I.N number (or you check in my purse and find where I have written it down), and you ìstealî money from my bank account. ÝCCVB didnít hack this girlís email account, she was careless with her password I think, or didnít log out.

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Thank you sister X. I've been trying for some time now to figure out why so many intelligent people could possibly think that CVB's total invasion of other peoples privacy could possibly be explained or excused and now I know why. Because most of them don't have the full facts and details available to them. Why? Because the remaining details they need are on a different thread. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
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Remember that this thread is only an UPDATE of the original thread. Here is the original thread:

http://bkkx.com/cgi-bin/forum/topic.cgi?forum=22&topic=267&start=0
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Now that you know where to find the missing details you need to UPDATE your opinion on the subject at hand ( Something that seems to have been completely missed by brother Ruggedscot ) allow me to save sister X a little time searching by presenting her particular missed detail. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
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Quote from CVB: <I have my internet in my room so I can work while I am here. This morning she wanted to check her e-mail and I happened to get a glimpse of her password and here is what I see on her e-mail, all of these have been sent AFTER I have started seeing her> Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
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Her only act of carelessness was not knowing that he was standing behind her back watching her enter her PRIVATE password and memorizing it. Anyone still not have a problem with this kind of invasion of privacy? Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
I'm not going to try and FORCE my beliefs concerning invasion of privacy on anyone ( I'm still having a hard time believing that I actually would have to in the first place ). You all know my view on this subject so I'm done with this thread, but before I close let me mention one last detail that should be considered as well. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
Everyone keeps talking about whether he should be allowed to check up on his GF to make sure she's behaving herself. To check her emails or hire a PI. I will concede to the fact that if a guy is SPONSORING a lady in LOS that he should be entitled to check up on her, from time to time, to make sure she's sticking to whatever sponsorship conditions they mutually agreed to. He has the right to know if he should cut his losses or continue to send her money every month. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
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However, perhaps one of you could point me in the right direction because so far I haven't had much luck finding the part that says that CVB is SPONSORING this woman in any way, shape or form. Did I miss that part? Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
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Here's some parts I didn't miss. Quote from CVB: <I started getting e-mail again from Ms. XXX and my curiosity got the best of me so I decided to look into the reason why> Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
Now I'm not the expert on sponsorship but how many guys still send money to ladies in LOS that they haven't heard from for quite some time? Sorry, as far as I'm concerned CVB isn't her sponsor and he isn't her boyfriend. He is yet another guy who has a list of favorite ladies that he likes to spend time with when he's in LOS and she's one of them. Anyone still think he has a right to invade her privacy? Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
Last detail on the subject ( For me anyway ). Who actually thought that CVB genuinely cared about this lady ( I mean before he found out that she may or may not have an STD )? Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
Quote from CVB: <I am not getting emotional at all, I am glad I was not "taken for a ride" and posted this report here for others to learn from. I do not have ANY feelings for this girl but feel bad for the guys she is "stringing along" because I have beent here in the past and when the truth comes out it really hits you hard.> Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
I'm done. Peace Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
BTW- CVB the next time you decide to edit one of those emails ( And we all know there will be a next time ) at least try to do a better job of protecting the identities of the people involved. There's enough identifying info in your opening post to give anyone with any intelligence a very good shot at finding the lady in question. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
If you have any feelings for her I'm sure you wouldn't want her to find out that people are reading all about her possibly having an STD. OOPS, sorry I forgot.


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Posted on: 12:47 am on Aug. 28, 2003
ccvvbb

Quote: from cmore on 12:47 pm on Aug. 28,

BTW- CVB... There's enough identifying info in your opening post to give anyone with any intelligence a very good shot at finding the lady in question. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
If you have any feelings for her I'm sure you wouldn't want her to find out that people are reading all about her possibly having an STD. OOPS, sorry I forgot.
Actually I have edited the post to the point that you would not have any idea whatsoever that this is the same message as the original. The only similarities are the facts and I am sure there are 10's of thousands of BG's with social diseases. I don't think anybody here has asked how much I have edited the original message...

Quote: from cmore on 12:47 pm on Aug. 28,
...the next time you decide to edit one of those emails ( And we all know there will be a next time ) at least try to do a better job of protecting the identities of the people involved.
Anyone want to bet a drink on whether I post in this topic again before I am in LOS in November? I say I won't!!


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Posted on: 1:01 am on Aug. 28, 2003
nokna
         
"BTW- CVB the next time you decide to edit one of those emails ( And we all know there will be a next time ) at least try to do a better job of protecting the identities of the people involved. There's enough identifying info in your opening post to give anyone with any intelligence a very good shot at finding the lady in question"

it seems i have no intelligence and therefore am stupid.
i saw no references in the opening post which identified the girl.
cmore seems to know more than me after reading the post.

what was the girls name?,which establishment did she work in?,which town/city does she work in?.
is she in CR,CM,BKK,HKT or another Thai town?

according to cmore it seems it might be easy for any of us to find the girl.
with the info ccvvbb has given us,i think finding her would be very difficult.

but i bow down to cmore's superior knowledge in this matter.
i know of the Forums privacy rules and hope he will PM me with details of which bar the girl works in and in which town.  


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Posted on: 2:09 am on Aug. 28, 2003
Arramsey

Quote: from ccvvbb on 1:01 pm on Aug. 28, 2003

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-------------------------Anyone want to bet a drink on whether I post in this topic again before I am in LOS in November? I say I won't!!


Great ccvvbb ,
Finally good sense has prevailed . But why only until November ? Don't PUBLISH any one else's E-Mails without their permission EVER .


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Posted on: 3:14 am on Aug. 28, 2003
JHolmesJr
Please do if they're funny or we learn something from them.


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Posted on: 4:47 am on Aug. 28, 2003
cmore
< ÝI will concede to the fact that if a guy is SPONSORING a lady in LOS that he should be entitled to check up on her, from time to time, to make sure she's sticking to whatever sponsorship conditions they mutually agreed to. He has the right to know if he should cut his losses or continue to send her money every month. > Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
I know I said I was done with this thread but someone wise and all seeing reminded me of the error of forgetting to preview my posts before I submit them to check for mistakes like bad spelling, too many spaces between words or in this case SHIT YOU FORGOT TO CLARIFY! Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
So allow me to clarify by saying that yes you are entitled to check up on anyone you are sponsoring AS LONG AS she is aware that checking up on her from time to time is one of the mutually agreed upon conditions. Ý Ý Ý Ý
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If you tell her that you're going to be checking up on her occasionally and she doesn't have a problem with this then everythings fine. However if she doesn't agree or you do it behind her back then once again we're back to the invasion of privacy thing ( At least IMHO ). Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
Now you have my updated view on the subject. Your mileage may vary. Peace Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
BTW- Brother Nokna, you are far from stupid. Your problem is that you only see the things in peoples post that you choose to see or you'll only read as much as you choose to read and skip the rest. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
You've already said time after time that you don't continue reading post that don't have breaks in them, but that doesn't stop you from commenting on those post anyway. Most times the parts you misunderstand are explained perfectly well in the parts you chose not to read. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
So allow me to clarify a couple points for you. No where in my post did I say that I could find the lady who owns the emails that CVB outright stole from her. What I said was that because he did a lousy job of editting out identifying info I could have a VERY GOOD SHOT at finding the lady. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
My idea of VERY GOOD SHOT is around 10-15%. I consider that a VERY GOOD SHOT over the 0% shot I would have had if CVB hadn't helped himself to someone elses private emails and posted them on an open forum for all the world to see. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
One last thing that needs clarifying. Thanks to CVB I now know the ladies nickname, her location, and the type of establishment she works at ( Type of establishment only, not the exact place itself ). Throw in the internet and a little common sense and .... VERY GOOD SHOT. Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý Ý
However this doesn't mean that I'm going to go out of my way to actually make the attempt. The poor lady has already been violated enough as it is and doesn't even know it. Let's keep it that way at least. Peace


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Posted on: 11:18 pm on Aug. 28, 2003
expatchuck
cmore:

OK, you have cautioned your sponsored GF that you will be checking up on her. ÝI presume to be completely fair, you will advise her when and how you will be checking on her?

Let me offer you a little personal story.

I was sponsoring one several years ago and heard she had a Thai boyfriend and the simple f_ck was living in my house with her. ÝI asked her and she, of course, denied it. ÝTo make a long story short, I showed up a week early and caught them sitting down for lunch in MY house.

I threw both their useless asses out of the house.

Did I violate her rights by not warning her I might show up early? ÝI think not and, if it ever happens again, I will not warn another one that I might check up on her.


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Posted on: 2:22 am on Aug. 29, 2003
thaiprivateeye
allowing I am kept busy, and allowing in 5 out of 6 cases loyalty is well and truly out the window -  think C/more is in the minority here .... IMHO.


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Posted on: 2:33 am on Aug. 29, 2003
     

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