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HarryParatestes
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Quote: from jack attack on 11:21 am on June 30, 2004
Harry,
PULLEEEZE put the brakes on! IMO, your last comment of a buyout option is a train wreck looking for place to happen.
Give yourself time. If it is real it will be there tomorrow and the day after, etc. If not, you cannot dictate the terms with money or you own overwhelming love for this girl.
TIME OUT for your own sake.
Hold the phone, jack - that's the second time in this thread somebody has taken the exact opposite of what I actually said - reread it and you'll see I was responding to DG by saying I will absolutely NOT try to buy her out of the business. I simply don't believe (as DG apparently does) that throwing money at a girl will buy her love.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:12 am on June 30, 2004
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dirty guru
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no I just point to a time I was nearly as silly. I showed wealth. its a poor country. I lost. it was meant to be a warning, your slow. Put her on a bus, cough up 4000 a week and spare us similar stupidity. Note the difference between me and you? My girl went home, thanked me. And in a remote village, she stayed, that was peace of mind. Your way is stupid, and degrading to the average punter. most in your shoes send
Ps I hope the welsh guy at least sees her as the using business woman, not the ego what if crutch.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:59 am on June 30, 2004
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jack attack
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DS Bones.... I agree.
Harry - glad I misread it!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 2:20 am on June 30, 2004
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dirty guru
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But I then took her to aussie and after 29 months lost, my fault. If I could rewind. But no. BUt to speak about being with a woman that f_cks everyone, and your airfare is spent to be with her (as if its special some how) is too far gone, your seal meat to the sharks, I cant help ya.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:24 am on June 30, 2004
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Hermanolobo
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The chances of success with a bar girl equate roughly to winning the lottery.
Jack Attack, DSBones and Dirty Guru all make good points.
I have often recommended the book Money No.1 - Hello there Sexy man A survivors guide to Pattya by Neil Hutchinson.
This funny/sad book is very accurate and is a must for anybody contemplating a relationship of any kind with a Thai girl who has worked in bars/Go-go's/MP's.
The book offends those who believe that their little 'Tilac' is different. They never are. I say never ? Well almost never. A Westerner/farang is on to a loser from day one. The culture is so different and it is money that is Number One. Their whole concept of Love is so different. But Westerners are want to imposing their ideas of culture onto other cultures and that never succeeds (are you listening George Bush !).
I put my hands up Mr Harryparatestes,I have made all the CLASSIC MISTAKES and even married one = disaster. The wise and experienced saw it all coming. But I was a 'newbie' back then.
Neil Hutchinson ends his book by saying,"Where is the worst place on the planet?" = The departure lounge at Don Muang International Airport ! - For all his warnings and good advice even he wants to come back for more !!
It is very interesting to watch 'newbies' begin to tread the same path as I have, believe the same things and make the very same mistakes. A new punter on the same Merry-go-round' !!
I have found somebody called 'Bangkok Phil' on the net and I can only agree with his realistic yet in a way harsh views.
What do YOU think ? "It's up to you!"
The relevant section from Phil's page:-
Bargirls Themselves
"Getting involved with a Thai bar-girl romantically and sexually is a very dangerous thing to do, but getting involved emotionally is just about the worst thing you could ever do. I could fill this web-site 100 times over with stories of foreign friends or acquaintances that have fallen foul of these scheming, manipulating liars, and that’s exactly what they are. I make no bones about it.
For every farang-bar-girl relationship that is successful, there are 10 that end in heartbreak. Bar-girls just don’t live in the real world, and no matter how much you think she loves or cares for you, her driving force is money – plain and simple. There are no exceptions.
Many of the girls are from rural areas of grinding poverty, very often turfed out by their own families to go and seek their fortune in the big bad city, and while many of them will initially take up routine factory jobs, it’s only a matter of time before they realise that working the bars and lying on their backs for a living is far more lucrative.
Many of the girls have tales to tell of broken marriages, or perhaps a Thai husband who liked to play the field a bit too often, and one day she decided enough was enough. There are often children involved as well, being looked after by mother and father while their real mother dances under the neon lights on a Patpong stage. Many girls will still be supporting a Thai husband or boyfriend in Bangkok, something that will be kept a great secret from any foreign boyfriend.
The bar-girls are famous for being economical with the truth. Although they often claim to be sending money home to parents who are too ‘old and frail’ to work, if you care to delve deeper you will find that the parents are still in their 40’s, and are simply bone idle. That coupled with the fact that father probably has a chronic drinking problem.
To quote Dr Yos Santosombat of Thammasat University “any foreigner who thinks they can just come here and have a good time in Thailand’s sex industry and walk away without any emotional scars, is in way over their head”. Indeed, you do have to ask yourself if you are ready to get involved in such a roller-coaster relationship, because a Bangkok bar-girl will chew you up and spit out the pips if you are the slightest bit vulnerable. Seen it happen many times.
I’m personally a great observer of people, and the farang - bar-girl couple always make a fascinating study. You see them on the sky-train, in department stores, along Sukhumwit Rd. You can spot them a mile off. Bar-girls give off a certain aura. Apart from the obvious darker skin, and tartier clothes, they don’t know how to behave themselves in public. Certainly not in the way that would conform to the Thai norm. You know what they are just from the vocabulary they use and their very body language. You might also want to check out the section on Thai-farang relationships, and the section on getting a Thai girlfriend and then keeping her."
Bangkok Phil:-
http://www.philipwilliams.freeservers.com/
Hermano Lobo = Brother Wolf
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:31 am on June 30, 2004
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Hermanolobo
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I really had to post this rather than just add the link - I needs to be read !
Farang-Thai Relationships
I thank the Lord above, because I guess I’m one of the luckier ones. My Thai girlfriend is mature, well-educated, speaks English fluently, and comes from a very respected and influential family of medical people and university lecturers - Though I'll be the first to admit that any Thai-farang relationship has its problems irrespective of the Thai girl's background. I’m more fortunate than most because as a couple, can talk about things. We can debate the political situation in Burma. We can discuss the scoring system in baseball, and we can talk about the financial aspects of buying a condominium. My God, she often knows a little bit about English cricket. I’m not saying all this to gloat in any way, but I just feel that the ability to actually communicate with each other on some kind of level is the crux of any relationship.
The gap between Thais and Farangs in virtually every facet of life is huge, and I feel that for many couples, relationships are doomed right from the start, because what the hell do you guys talk about? I saw a debate on some discussion board about a farang wanting to take a bar-girl to a cinema and check out a movie. When that movie is over, if you’re a movie buff like me, isn’t it nice/wouldn’t it be nice to discuss what the film meant to you, or how it could’ve been better, or what other movies you’ve seen whatsisname in, instead of the summary of a movie either being good (dee), or not good (may dee). That is just banality to the extreme, but it depends what you look for in a relationship - me, I'm a talker.
Thai women are indeed very beautiful, and very graceful, and all the other adjectives we use a thousand times a day, and their physical appeal is not in question, but apart from the 5 minutes a day when you’re giving the bed-springs a quality control test, what about the other 23 hours and 55? There has to be something to get hold off. (and that doesn’t mean what you’re thinking). Man can be such a sad animal at times, thinking that he’s found the answer to his prayers in one hour-glass shaped package. Nothing can be further from the truth in reality.
I always chuckle at these well-meaning foreigners who think that whisking off their prize to a foreign clime is the culmination of all her dreams.It's like plucking a rose from a garden in my opinion. When little Noy is freezing her little tits off, wrapped up in 8 layers of clothing and trying desperately to look as though she’s really enjoying that plate of cold meats – remind her what a good time she’s having.
I will say this about Thai women though, they are fiercely loyal. Far far more than any western woman I’ve ever encountered. You may have read about that unfortunate gentleman who after playing away from home, had his essential appendage removed with a kitchen knife while he took a nap, and then realized his missis had tied it to a helium balloon. I honestly think that 99% of Thai women, if pushed enough, would go that extra nine yards, or nine inches as the case may be. Then again what would I do with the remaining three. (boom boom)
This is amusing but so true !
Farangs Do Crazy Things in the Eyes of Thais
1) Lie in the sun.
2) Take photos of Tuk-tuks
3) Chase Thai girls that no respecting Thai man would look at
4) Take photos of the traffic jams
5) Wear string around their wrist
6) Wear fake Rolex or Gucci watches
7) Wai positively everyone they meet
8) Eat with just a fork
9) Request no ice in drinks
10) Drink beer without ice
11) Hold hands in the street
12) Tip taxi drivers and barbers
13) Get drunk in public
14) Leave their beautiful countries to come and live in Thailand
15) Succumb to the 'attractions' of Patpong
16) Wear shorts away from the beach
17) Eat the skin of an apple
18) Feel sorry for the stray dogs
19) Kiss and hug old friends
20) Tell racist jokes
Farang Baa !
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:53 am on June 30, 2004
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dirty guru
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Send money, improve life, and dont be fooled it can work, just really find one that shouldnt and doesnt want to be there. And it will be a start, there is an over the rainbow.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:31 am on June 30, 2004
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ThaidUp
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Quote from Hermy's quote "Thai women are indeed very beautiful, and very graceful, and all the other adjectives we use a thousand times a day, and their physical appeal is not in question, but apart from the 5 minutes a day when you’re giving the bed-springs a quality control test, what about the other 23 hours and 55? There has to be something to get hold off. (and that doesn’t mean what you’re thinking). Man can be such a sad animal at times"
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The only thing that is sad is this guy's performance in bed, no wonder he needs to talk about cricket.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 5:07 am on June 30, 2004
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NaughtiusMaximus
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The crazy thing about that crazy list is that it is 'in the eyes of the thais' anywhere else it is normal behaviour, so who's the fcuked up strange behaved minority.
TU, I was wondering what to do with the remaining 4 minutes.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:22 am on June 30, 2004
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