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karlsberg
KiNHoY,

You're comments are right on. "You can take the girl out of the bar, but not the bar out of the girl" I've heard this quote so many times before and seen it here in the states (US). California has the largest Thai population outside Thailand. KiNHoY himself had a TG (BG) in the states and like so many other relationships like his and I know through my other friend married to a TG also. Most if not all end up divorced. I'm not only talking about bargirls, but just average non bargirls as well. However, I'm sure the percentage that work out for the better are those that reside in Thailand. Did you also know that Thailand has the highest divorce rate in all of Asia. I wonder why! Just food for thought Karlsberg


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Posted on: 10:34 pm on Nov. 5, 2004
Jojje
Well guys --- I dont know if this entry makes anyone "wiser" but since this forum is about sharing and contributing, just let me add this: brother JJ is in trouble.......

As mentioned before: been to LOS more times than I can count and for many many years. Not to brag - just a fact. I have encountered more TG experiences than probably I should - and at the "final day" perhaps I will be held accountable. Had a longer (3 years) very nice relation with a TG many years ago. That did not work out since she (very understandably) could not adapt living in my country. So we separated - but I still sometimes think of her and just pray that her life became ok.

After that I have been going and coming to LOS and experiencing just about everything there is. I also think I am grown up and experienced and with no actual desire to think I can attract or "chase" girls half my age.

And as entered earlier in this thread I had the "luck" of running into HER at my last visit a couple of weeks ago. Totally against my own "butterfly rules" I BF her for the remainder of my stay - had lots of fun with this little brown incredible beauty and made love to her every freeking night in a way that the little member in the morning almost accused me of: "hey man - what the heck are you up to? Think you are 20 yo again or what...?!" I was surprised myself of the power that was "still there". Obviously if the mental stimulation is good enough - age does not count.

My wiser part tells me that I am a fool. The girl is the same age as when I met my former TGF... so she could be daughter - agewise. Itīs crazy...... just to add to the whole thing: she has the SAME NAME as my former TG --- now how big a chance is that?!!!

Yes - of course I know there will never ever be a real thing between us. I still have that control over myself. But still --- I have been home a couple of weeks now - and I just canīt get that pretty small face and that small tight ass out of my inner vision... god forgive me...

And just as I thought I was gaining strength - small misspelled emails start dropping in - you know how they are: "my daling - miss you so much...." etc. No sick water buffalo yet - but I am sure it will come. Itīs a game. I know it - and still I could jump a plane right now just to go down and see her - and rip her clothes off!

I work in my own company and start to think of putting up a "FOR SALE" sign - and finally do what I have been considering for 20 years - move to LOS. My staff think I am not mentally present and sometimes even grumpy - which is correct - my mind is actually elsewhere and I donīt give a shit about the daily sales in the company - it is always ok anyway.

I will not be alone in LOS again before april -- at which time I will not be a better man than go see her straight away. Will even call her and order the limo to pick her up at her place so she can be at the airport when I land. How many shags with other punters has she had when I was gone? Why should I bother? ----- and why do I actually.... god - I need help to get back on track....

I wished she was here right now - with that smile, with that perfect body- so firm, slim and soft - yet tight where you mostly want it. Her shy yet candid personality. Her lousy english, my lousy thai - yet we communicate - and have fun - more fun than I have had in years. How the bloody hell is it even possible?!

MAN - I am a mental looser and the reason I share it here with the rest of you guys is just to show that NOONE - no matter how experienced - is immune to the TG phenomena - when it strikes you like a lightning from blue skies!

Today my GO is just counting the days until I see that lovely young girl naked near me again.... and at the same time the smarter me will ask what the heck I am up to! In a way I am lucky I am not 25 yo. If that was the case - I would REALLY be a sore looser on this girl and hold on to her for dear life!

So now you know that JJ is not his usual himself......

I miss her........ so much


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Posted on: 11:10 pm on Nov. 6, 2004
omar suarez
Jing Jing brother, I've lurked around hear for a good while now but never seen a post that hits the spot like yours. Going through exactly the same stuff right now, 12 years coming to bangers for a month at a time without the banging (only the TW who I love dearly). This time I decided to have a little fun, many excuses, busy at work, ten years married bla bla bla but you really have to make sure your wired up to handle that fuzzy feeling when it happens. It has bitten me on the ass big style but while I know I can't follow through with any ridiculous plans, there's always a nagging urge to blow the whole lot, flog the business, sell the house but I guess it's just a bad case of the bangkok blues. I have had the strength to ditch her email and mobile number but will I have it to walk into that bar again and see her wrapped around a 300 pound Gunter or a 150 pound stud? Dangerous game.


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Posted on: 1:48 pm on Nov. 7, 2004
BigDUSA
MAN - I am a mental looser and the reason I share it here with the rest of you guys is just to show that NOONE - no matter how experienced - is immune to the TG phenomena - when it strikes you like a lightning from blue skies!

Today my GO is just counting the days until I see that lovely young girl naked near me again.... and at the same time the smarter me will ask what the heck I am up to! In a way I am lucky I am not 25 yo. If that was the case - I would REALLY be a sore looser on this girl and hold on to her for dear life!

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?

You've been around the block many times. How many times has this hit you?? If your lucky after awhile she MAY feel the same way.

Make the move. Learn the language. Send her to school and start your NEW LIFE.

What you want to wait until your older more mature? DO IT.

JJ, I'm assuming you don't have young kids at home.


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Posted on: 7:02 pm on Nov. 7, 2004
Jojje
BigD - and all the rest of you broīs out there. Perhaps you may not care a bit but I have a small announcement to make.......

I have decided to change my life and for once do what the inner voice talks about. No - donīt get me wrong, it is NOT because of the little dame told about earlier in this thread - even though she is great.

No - as BigD says, one doesnt get any younger but I am not old, thereīs still plenty of quality time to be had - and I intend to do just that !!

It wonīt happen tomorrow or perhaps even next year - but I have been constantly going over things in my mind lately and come to the conclusion that there are some good things in my own country - but also some I canīt stand any longer. LOS is not perfect in every detail, but if you adapt and accept plus keep your own track I believe you can have a true paradise life.

But I have a lot to check out first and I should have understood what my subconscious mind told me last month, when I found myself reading the real estate ads very carefully every morning.

I am in no way an expert about what it takes paperwise to move to LOS - but being a businessman also means that you are used to dig up info at times, so thatīs just what I have to start doing now - and let it take the time necessary. Will not rush things. I guess there is a million things to get the grip of: living, visas, healthcare insurances, driving license, etc etc on a long long list. But there are after all other broīs that has done it - so why not yours truly!

Will probably try at first to find a good place to rent - then look for something own. Plus one needs something to do - maybe buy something that is already up and running? Who knows......

I have also decided to try and get into the language and will this winter start to study thai if I can either find a pesonal teacher or a professional evening class to attend. I strongly believe that language is very important key to get into a country as a new resident.

Well - there you have it guys, I canīt fight it anymore. The work to become a new member of the expat community in LOS has begun!

And whilst checking out all details and preparing all the work that needs to be done - I will at least have a VERY good reason to go to the Kingdom even more often and research!!

The FOR SALE sign is soon up here!


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Posted on: 8:15 pm on Nov. 8, 2004
manowar
JJ,

Good for you. Only caution for you is : can you make as much $$ in LOS as here ? Not a chance. then in a few years ( or a few months) you are going to feel shitty for giving up your business here ( that I presumbly is a cash cow) and settle for some micky mouse beer bar biz or some pizza parlors......I went through the whole calculation this year, even went to Phuket to look at real estate to buy. But my instinct tells me that I will never make the same kind of $$ there as I have here. Then what ? will you have to change your way a few months or years down the road because now you have to start to think about your dwinddling fortune ?? I made the decision that I will keep my main biz here in the States and just make LOS my vacation place - as much a vacation place as you want, 3 months, 6 months....but to continue with the lifestyle you are accustomed to, you need to keep the $$ coming in.....I just don't think it's possible to do that if you re-locate to LOS completely. Just my 2c.


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Posted on: 8:49 pm on Nov. 8, 2004
Jojje

Quote: from manowar on 8:43 am on Nov. 9, 2004
JJ,

Good for you. Only caution for you is : can you make as much $$ in LOS as here ? Not a chance. then in a few years ( or a few months) you are going to feel shitty for giving up your business here ( that I presumbly is a cash cow) and settle for some micky mouse beer bar biz or some pizza parlors......I went through the whole calculation this year, even went to Phuket to look at real estate to buy. But my instinct tells me that I will never make the same kind of $$ there as I have here. Then what ? will you have to change your way a few months or years down the road because now you have to start to think about your dwinddling fortune ?? I made the decision that I will keep my main biz here in the States and just make LOS my vacation place - as much a vacation place as you want, 3 months, 6 months....but to continue with the lifestyle you are accustomed to, you need to keep the $$ coming in.....I just don't think it's possible to do that if you re-locate to LOS completely. Just my 2c.



MOW: you are exactly on the spot - and that is surely something that has been on my mind as well! Sure the other opt is to keep the present money maker here and try to go to LOS for long visits each year. But then the boss is not in house and I will have to "repair" it to the thing I want it to be when back in the chair. Perhaps better to cut the string?! In my case if I sold everything I doubt if I ever have to work again whilst in LOS. But of course I would - just sit at a stool drinking beer is not an option. So what should one do?? Donīt know - yet!! But I have a great trust in the little grey ones upstairs and the challenge is to find solutions to problems, not necessarily see them as a barrier. If making less in LOS, yes I believe that to be true - but you can also live a fantastic life with 100.000 baht per month! A fraction of all my bills and commitments here.

So why not downgrade? Thatīs my idea - and just enjoy life. Sure money means a lot - but I would not do this if I knew I would run out of dough in say 5-10 years. But not there yet -- this is a plan I will handle just as careful as setting up a business - which means that it is a substantial puzzle to assemble.


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Posted on: 9:27 pm on Nov. 8, 2004
manowar

If making less in LOS, yes I believe that to be true - but you can also live a fantastic life with 100.000 baht per month! A fraction of all my bills and commitments here.




100,000 baths/month in BKK sounds ok, but 200,000 bahts/month (oe more ) is even better !! Why downgrade when you can have it all - if you don't give up the cash cow !


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Posted on: 3:04 am on Nov. 9, 2004
     

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