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Smegma
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I told you. 
Isn't it great now, the feeling of power you get by knowing that at will you can really make her happy. No more doubts.
And now it is for you to choose who and when you bring someone to climax. It is nice to regain back some of that power women always had over us. 
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:27 am on Aug. 22, 2003
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Arramsey
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Quote: from Smegma on 4:27 pm on Aug. 22, 2003
------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ It is nice to regain back some of that power women always had over us.
Sorry Smegs ,
You spoilt it for me . Bringing a female to orgasm has always been about PLEASURE for me and NOT about POWER .
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 4:34 am on Aug. 22, 2003
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Arcadius
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Power is boring. It's the sort of stuff that makes bureaucrats, apparatchiks and other people with brief cases happy.
I agree entirely about the pleasure thing, and of course it's purely selfish. If you can make a woman happy, she'll make you a lot happier than she otherwise would do. Whatever she happens to get out of her orgasm is entirely her own affair...
That said, uncontrolled spam strikes me one of most unpleasurable things it is possible to imagine. Even a carefully-controlled single slice of that stuff is very far from sexy.
Happily, I have so far managed to avoid this problem when going down on a woman. Is there any particular technique recommended here which produces this unwanted side-effect?
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:28 am on Aug. 22, 2003
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Smegma
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You guys are reading me wrong or fooling yourselves.
The power to be able to give so much pleasure!! At will. That is the issue
Don't fool yourselves. You like to GIVE pleasure. If you were truly altruistic about her pleasure, you wouldn't mind who she gets it from. But no, you like the fact that it is YOU who can, and is giving so much pleasure and not the milkman.
Be honest guys.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 8:52 am on Aug. 22, 2003
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X
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hmmmm, I'm gonna sit on the sidelines and watch this one develop for a while... Ýthen throw in my 2 cents worth. ÝSuffice to say I do understand Smeg's use of the word "power". Ý
Arc and Arramsey...
What feeling do you get when you bring your partner pleasure? ÝHow would you describe that feeling?
Smegs,
Re the "giving pleasure at will" part (who and when you bring to climax)....
This might be needless nit-picking on my part, but at times, no matter how perfectly my partner performs his duties;) he isn't going to ring that bell today and collect the prize. ÝGranted this usually has a lot more to do with something bad going on in between my ears than the lack of something good going on in between my thighs...
geez, I hope that made sense. ÝIt does to every women I have every discussed the subject with. Ý(oh and incidentally, they agree with me too... some days it just aint gonna happen)
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 9:23 am on Aug. 22, 2003
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Tsonoqua
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X:
That's certainly my experience with western women. ÝMood and state of mind play a such a large role that sometimes, no matter what you do, no matter if you make your tongue numb, you can't always achieve the desired result.
Also, in extensive reading of this forum, I've found guys who have admitted that they can't always cum, sometimes blaming it on their mental state.
Smegma: ÝI agree with you about power, as you are using the word.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:46 am on Aug. 22, 2003
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Arcadius
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Honesty? Wow, whatever next? This is cutting-edge stuff and no mistake. Long skippable post follows (sorry).
The overriding consideration for me is simply that I find a sexually excited woman FAR more sexually exciting than one who isn't. I can't experience her orgasm for her. What I can do is turn her sexual excitement to my own account and heighten my own pleasure.
OK, obviously it isn't quite as selfish as that (though it may be just as egotistical). There is self-satisfaction to be derived from a job well done, and also pleasure to be derived from making someone else happy. Doesn't it always give us a warm glow if we know our company is appreciated, whether we're talking about sex, conversation or even general arsing around? One of the lovely things about BGs (the nice ones, that is) is the way they obviously take pleasure in giving you pleasure, and it's nice if you can get it working the other way round too.
But power? Not in the sense you mean, I think. If we're talking about BGs (and I am, at any rate), I find it desirable not to think about what they do with other guys at all. Moreover, if I say so myself, I am very good at this. 'Rival lovers', comparative performance & all that junk just don't enter the equation. I've never been able to take myself at all seriously as some kind of stud.
There is another kind of power though - breaking resistance. A few months back, I met a new BG and we clicked hugely. This one is a very experienced pro (now 27, been on the game since 16), but she'd been out of the P4P biz for quite a while, was returning to it very reluctantly, and after some bad experiences in the past, was obviously determined to keep punters at arm's length. Let's call her Nan.
Now, I couldn't resist whisking Nan straight off for ST. She's highly sexed, was unusually responsive for a first-time ST encounter, and we were obviously ultra-simpatico in the sack. I knew she was properly aroused because her sides became very sweaty, and they can't fake that. Even so, she was deliberately holding back. While making all the prescribed manoeuvres down south, I could see that she was stopping herself whenever her back began to arch. She's one strong-minded little lady, so I didn't belabour the point.
Well OK, Round 2 and LT. This time, I was determined to get Nan off. Why? For the same reason she didn't want me to get her off - I wanted to connect with her properly and create a real relationship. I liked her hugely, and knew she liked me, but there weren't any romantic feelings here, and I was ambitious to turn her into the kind of trusted BG sex-chum I've always wanted.
So - din-dins, irresistable Arcadian charm turned to max, long slow build-up and then down to business. Same as before, but I was far more persistent, and eventually she must have decided that going with it was the course of least resistance. No doubt about her cumming; very obvious abdominal contractions, the lot.
Success then? No, except in the narrow sexual sense. She wanted me to get off her while I was still getting my breath back, and after a shower announced that she had to go home (at 4am!). I was very disappointed, but wasn't going to give up on her. Another session, ST this time. Getting off physically didn't seem to be a problem any more, but she still wasn't going to let me get close to her. Frustrating.
Then we lost contact for a month. I thought I'd lost her altogether and was pretty sad about it. Then, one night, I went into a GG, ordered a beer, lit a fag, looked up - and there she was, dead-ahead on the runway, grinning hugely. Must have been obvious from my reaction that I do genuinely like her for herself and not just as a piece of ass - at any event, that was the breakthrough. Since then, Nan's been everything I wanted her to be. I consider her a real pal, and sex with her is always terrific.
I don't think I get off on the idea: "Hey, I can break these fillies' resistance". If there is any 'power' involved in this story (and there was obviously a big element of happenstance), then I would regard it only as a necessary means to a desirable end, and not as a desirable thing in itself. I detest other people exercising power over me, and I have no wish to exercise power over others. I'd FAR rather respond to them as equals, if at all possible, because I enjoy them much more that way.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:57 am on Aug. 22, 2003
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X
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That's certainly my experience with western women. ÝMood and state of mind play such a large role that sometimes, no matter what you do, no matter if you make your tongue numb, you can't always achieve the desired result.
Tsonoqua,
I doubt this phenomena is restricted to western women. Ý(then again my knowledge of biology and psychology are limited, so thatís just a guess)
Glad you get the ìpowerî bit thoÖ. I was kinda worried I was falling into a category of one lone member who understood Smegs;)
Arc,
But power? Not in the sense you mean, I think.
I canít speak for Smeg, but I think I know exactly what he means when he uses the word ìpowerî in this context. ÝItís not negative in the least. ÝMany people (male & female) get a very empowering feeling from the knowledge that they have the power to do something that can rock their partners world ñ itís a major confidence boost and works wonders for the self esteem. ÝAnd if all is as it should be under the sheets (i.e equal), then the ìpowerî switches back and forth between partners. Ý
Iím not sure, but I sense you have a lot of negative connotations with the use of the word power. ÝI wish I could think of another apt word to replace it with. Ý
(ability, capacity, influence, skill Ö something along those lines perhaps)
The way I understand the word being used in this context it has absolutely nothing to do with getting off on breaking your partners resistance. Ý I wish I could describe it better, itís not mean-spirited in the least. Ý
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:26 pm on Aug. 22, 2003
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Smegma
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The word power has many meanings. I thought it would be clear what I tried to mean. More so after explaining it. I think I will quote from a dictionary (www.meriam-webster.com), and clearly indicate which definition I am using in this case.
Maybe this would clarify what I mean.
Main Entry: 1pow…er
Pronunciation: 'pau ( -& )r
Function: noun
Date: 13th century
1 a (1) : ability to act or produce an effect(YES YES YES - this is what I mean) (2) : ability to get extra-base hits (3) : capacity for being acted upon or undergoing an effect b : legal or official authority, capacity, or right
2 a : possession of control, authority, or influence over others b : one having such power; specifically : a sovereign state c : a controlling group (NO NO NO, This is not what I mean)
X, Tsonoqua you read me right.
Arcadius, I do not think we disagree. I think you are just focusing on the wrong meaning of power (from what I meant it to be in this thread). And thus, you think we disagree.
Arramsey, you have not commented since your last post. But I trust you will understand what I mean after reading all the subsequent posts. I agree it is more about pleasure. As the definition from the dictionary, it is about having the ability to produce an effect; and that my friends is POWER -in this specific case to produce a sexual pleasurable effect.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 5:36 pm on Aug. 22, 2003
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haam sup
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"And now it is for you to choose who and when you bring someone to climax. It is nice to regain back some of that power women always had over us."
I think this is where the 'power' thing got some of us confused...the kind of power that this brings to mind is pretty much leveled out, ONCE YOU ARE BOTH HORIZONTAL. ÝThat would be the power to choose who gets to get busy. ÝWomen almost ALWAYS hold that power, in animals, and in humans, due to the simple-minded male desire, vs. the less obvious criteria used by women to decide who to sleep with. ÝOf course, there are exceptions (ever see a rock-star and groupies?), but mostly women's desire is less obvious, while men's is predictable. ÝIt's a 'seller's' market...
However, once the decision has been made, having the ability to please one's partner and the choice to apply it, it's pretty even. ÝFumblethumbs and starfish are each the other's counterpart...
"Remember it is all about the proper use of the TONG"
When in doubt, use machinery...
haam sup
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:51 pm on Aug. 22, 2003
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