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Max Bialystock
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I'm sure there is 1 guy who married a bar girl, and lived happily ever after.
He's the exception that proves the rule.
Max
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:07 pm on June 18, 2004
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Oz
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There are lots of guys who have successfully married Thai Bar Girls and have a normal happy life. I know 4 guys who have married TG's from P4P, 3 have been married more than 5 years and as far as you can tell lead pretty normal lives!
There are obviously compromises on both sides and cultural difference that takes adapting too but the bottom line is pretty easy to understand: - "A good girl is a good girl"! No matter what she did before hand! I believe the most successful formula for these marriages have always been to live out of Thailand to reduce temptations to going back to old ways for both parties! This can be difficult as most Thai’s prefer living in Thailand! IMHO!
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 11:24 pm on June 18, 2004
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BigDUSA
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but suffice it to say that your perspective may be a little different on this topic than those of us who are willing and able to form long-term relationships with young women who are seeking a way out of a life of prostitution
Harry,
You asked the question and I answered it with a series of questions in return.
How are you going to form a long term relationship with women who as soon as you leave will return to the bar where you met them and go with men for money? What kind of relationship do you think you can have?
Why not take the time and target non P4P women. There are vast numbers of pretty women who go to work every day that are not P4P. If a 57 y/o bearded balding, fat guy who speaks almost no Thai can do it so can you.
Any and all input is certainly appreciated, but it might be more informative to hear from folks who've actually been down this road or know someone who has, as opposed to those whose only interest is in passing judgment on their brothers and their brothers' lovers.
First of all your not my brother, he's dead.
At this point your just a nameless, faceless guy on a pussy forum that concerns itself with whores in Thailand. Where to find them, what hotel to take them to and what to pay them. Some times we get newbies who fall for the illusion that's Thailand. At one time or another we've all been there but for most of us the illusion goes POOF when we get on the plane.
I've been to a few round tables where some of the members are not nameless, faceless guys
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:30 pm on June 18, 2004
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BigDUSA
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I don't look "down on" the bargirls (well, there is the occasion when I'm standing and she's not, but I think we're talking figuratively here,,,) but I wish the love-sick Romeos amoung us would look at the situation they are in with a more realistic outlook.
Yes, the bargirls are often very attractive, articulate to the degree possible and charming hostesses. They have to be because it's part of the JOB! That's what they do and they try very hard to maximize their income. While brother or sister is working in a factory or other unskilled job for 80+ hours a week they have chosen to deal with falang in a more direct way and probably make 10 times as much for their efforts. It's certainly not an easy job to crawl into bed and act charming with an much older, overweight and often drunk falang. But it's an economic decision they have made to maximize their income. If you wanna believe they prefer you over a younger, fitter Thai man who shares their language, religion and culture well dream on. They may even marry you but if you insist on believing it is because of your wit and sexual prowess you need a reality check. 90% of the ladies have Thai boyfriends (or husbands) either in town or back in the village. 98% of the bargirls will always prefer someone who is of their own race, religion and shares their native language if all things were equal. But they are not equal. Falang walk into a bar and casually drop what would be a hard-earned months salary to them back in Isaan. If they consent to sleep with you they can make a week's wages back home in one night.
If you want to believe the crap about you being a "hansum man" do so at your own peril. The ladies aren't stupid by a long shot and they will tell you whatever they think you want to hear to maximize their longterm income and security. That doesn't make them lazy or bad in anyway, it makes them smart business people. If you insist on believing they are doing you a favor or treating you in a special way out of love or attachment, please be careful.
I just got back from my first trip this year of thirty days and I'm already planning my next one in September. If you're looking for love you have an awful lot of chaf to sort through. If I was looking for love I wouldn't be looking for it in a bar.
If you are silly enough to believe they find you sexy and attractive you will get what you deserve eventually. I know what I'm getting when I walk out of the bar with a young attractive lady half my age on my arm. I hope you understand as well.
~Sa-teef
Sa-teef said this alot better then I ever could. I copied this off http://www.pattayapages.com Good board mainly about Pattaya lots of good post about Thai women.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 11:43 pm on June 18, 2004
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Bok Hah
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Fact is BigD, this chap, Harry, has already met a lady he has clicked with, she just happens to be p4p.
I met my wife in similar environs, I had been travelling to and from Asia for over 10 years at that time, without wishing to marry any of the hundreds of ladies I had met. When I did realise she was the one, I was not happy about the fact she was p4p, but that fact could not be changed.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:50 pm on June 18, 2004
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HarryParatestes
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BigD, I'm not looking to get in a pissing match with you. I can see you've got an answer for everything. Sorry I referred to you as a brother.
If you think for a moment that I'm old, overweight, unattractive, or a drunk then you couldn't be further from the truth.
Next time I'm in LOS (which should be very soon, inshallah) I'll try to attend an RT so people around here can put a face to the screen name.
Cheers, BigD, and enjoy your adventures in LOS.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:24 am on June 19, 2004
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Brocher
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Brother Crazy Harry
I worked in LOS and lived with a BG for 4 years, got married then moved to my country and we were divorced after a year. I wont go into great detail about why we didn't, ".. live happily ever after." but it had nothing to do with her being an ex-BG or cultural differances also we both tried (succeeded to an extent) to learn each other's language.
Suffice to say it was great loving and living with somebody like her for so many years although the last bit was a few weeks of hell! The differances between her attitude and mine to the same situation were very eye-opening, sometimes hilarious and always very rewarding (I hope for both of us), I can throughly recommend the experience. This message is just to say, that IMHO it's possible to find a BG to share a loving successful relationship with, although ultimately ours failed don't let that put you off.
I doubt if your friends/family will ever ask what her job was or where you met (they might be too embarrassed!) but don't be put off by her being an ex-BG probably a lot younger than you (if your friends and family can't handle it then you probably don't need them anyway). Don't be put off by the cultural differances, language difficulties etc., they are challenges for you to overcome together. Sometimes a relationship with a BG partner will break down for the same reasons as a relationship with somebody from your own culture/country etc., I'm guessing but there are probably millions of divorced people who were married to somebody of the same culture and neither of them was a whore!
Cheers (inshalah)
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:04 am on June 19, 2004
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Noknoi
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I married a very good and well-educated Thai-Chinese girls and it did not work for a variety of reasons. I have been with an ex-Bg for over a year and going very strong. She fits into that category of "new to the scence." Great English, two year of university (She is going back now, and to law school no less), a semi-Christian, owns land, a good kickboxer (her dad was an instructor for the Royal Thai Army in Nam), has a history of real jobs, has ambitions beyond a service job-lawyer, and hates the whole bar scene, but in the end a nastly little bitch. To me she is perfect; english-speaking (also Lao, Khmer, and Mon), educated, big family, likes weapons, and loves sex and is hornier than the Philadephia Symphony Orchestra.
She is a rare bird, funny her name is nok, but they are out there.
Cheers
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:10 am on June 19, 2004
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BigDUSA
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Harry,
I'm just asking you questions and I take it they are to difficult for you to answer........ Maybe you need to take another look at what you think you want to do because if you huffy now what will it be like when you been with her a year or so and the honeymoon is over and the daily day to day grind of a relationship takes over?
If you think for a moment that I'm old, overweight, unattractive, or a drunk then you couldn't be further from the truth.
I was referring to myself.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 1:10 am on June 19, 2004
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cyborg
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Harry, I think you are getting the full spectrum of advice from the experienced bros here. Everything from dont do it to go for it. I think clearly the best option lies somewhere in the middle. If you feel strongly for this lady (ISn't it easy to do with these lovely ladies?) Why not take a breather, test the waters with a few other BGs to get your bearings so to speak. Maybe an even better one is available that would click with you even more so.
As far as whether or not to hook up with a BG....if you are like me the fact that a bunch of strangers have inserted there penises into her is not really a big deal.Rather the resulting potential damage to her psyche (AKA baggage) is of a greater concern.
I realize that it is hard to find the time to court a non p4p lady in LOS. I realize that you may not get laid by her for a while as you sort out the potential for a relationship. (There are always the BGs to turn to to relieve those blue balls) If it is at all possible to find the time it would take to pursue a non p4p lady why not try that instead? I think there is a greater likelihood of some bad baggage that comes with a BG rather than a good educated girl.
When you are on a short vacation it seems that the simple uncomplicated lady is a dream partner. How long do you think that dream will last when you need this lady with a 6th grade education to hold a conversation about world events or something of substance? Wouldn't a more sophisticated/educated woman be a better match for you anyway?
I am certain it is possible to make a go of it with a BG but who needs the additional challenges when it will be difficult enough with language/cultural barriers as is?
Cyborg
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:24 am on June 19, 2004
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