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samthedog
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HarryParatestes
You asked, so my two 'apenceworth.
My first advice.......RUN! She is a hardened hooker who sells her body to the highest bidder, has little loyalty to anyone but her family, and will bring nothing but trouble. Pay as you go, my friend!
OK now you are determined to ignore that, so!
You have a "sunk" cost, some potential current revenue expenditure and some future capex!
You are right.......she may just be the love of your life, AND YOU OF HERS! We just might all be wrong!!!!!!!!!!
Look on the bright side, but limit future losses! Leave your options open, but go into it with your eyes open, not just an ATM who will have his heart and his bank account ripped out.
Money in bank account - sunk!
Make sure you know where it is going......
get her to account for it..... (my friends wife presents a monthly statement with every satang accounted for!!)
Current expenditure..when you visit, what will she want? How much is she costing avery day? All your money? hers as well? What is her attitude to it? Listen to the others here. Their musings are based on bitter and hard earned experience!!!
Think about your future together and what it is going to cost in the future. It could be far more than you think!
JMHO
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:46 am on July 16, 2004
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dirty guru
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Ok harry,....heressome advice. Get some inner strength up. Be resolute! Take one small step towards Goal number one. It doesnt have to end in a bad way. That my friend is for her to decide. If you are transfixed. Suffer then, at least this time. The important lesson here is relevation. She will make things clear on her return. You though should go in like a sucide bomber in determination. Say "" look I want this to be the true""...she will know what you mean. Then say"" we can have something if its what you want?"" After her answers you then, have to deal with. But reasonable objectives would be to clarify in your own mind your worth. There is an outside chance, that she will finish working, remove herself from that mindful enviroment that is bangkok. Its a trade off to her future with you. Be boss, at least in that your freeing her, (is that what she wants?) LOve in true form transcends things like whats happening in her choice department to a certain degree. At some point harry, you might have to bleed alot more right now, (and awaken and loose her)...maybe even win. BUt you were a man, either way.
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Posted on: 7:11 am on July 16, 2004
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Hermanolobo
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Harry,
People do what they want to-
YOU will do what you want to
Hard experience seems the only way to learn.
Life is your best teacher.
Samthedog's advice is sound.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:24 am on July 16, 2004
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dirty guru
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ps....dont think too much harry, or it will hurt even more.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 7:30 am on July 16, 2004
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HarryParatestes
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Quote: from artful dodger on 2:11 pm on July 16, 2004
harry,
are you sponsoring your filipina as well?
Nope. She's a civilian, not a working girl. Last time I was in the PI she was with me for 10 days and of course I paid for food, the hotel, transportation (trikes, taxis, and a ferry ride to and from Puerto Galera), but bought her no gifts and gave her almost no money. Her salary is 4000 pesos a month (about 72 USD) so when I left I slipped 2000 pesos in her purse. Alright, call me a sucker.
Quote: from samthedog on 2:46 pm on July 16, 2004
HarryParatestes
You asked, so my two 'apenceworth.
Okay sam, you've made a great post - can I respond to it point by point?
My first advice.......RUN! She is a hardened hooker who sells her body to the highest bidder, has little loyalty to anyone but her family, and will bring nothing but trouble. Pay as you go, my friend!
First off, let me say this: she may be lying to me, but so far everything she's told me has either checked out, made sense, or has not been in her best interest to tell me, so it was probably true.
She is 24 years old, has a college degree in food science (I saw her diploma and all her transcripts) and tells me she was a virgin until 22. Her first boyfriend was a 52 year old guy from Oregon whom she met on the skytrain, and it took him about a year to get into her pants. When he did, she was so shy he had to literally chase her around the room and capture her to get her into the bed. They ended up living together for about 6 months up in Chiang Mai and he took care of her very well, sent her to english classes and bought her a computer, etc. etc. He eventually left her and it broke her heart to the point she contemplated suicide. They are still friends, and he now has an even younger TGF who is a no-good yaba addict for whom he is building a house.
She tells me she's been in the business (freelancing only, has never worked in a bar) since about October of last year, and before that worked full time at office jobs since graduating college.... started out freelancing part-time, only on saturday nights.
She tells me she has saved almost all the money she's earned from prostitution and just recently built her mom a new kitchen for 100K THB. Any gold trinket gifts from customers went straight to her mom.
Loyalty to her family? Most definitely. A hardened hooker? I've met quite a few of those, and maybe I'm wrong, but she doesn't seem to fit the description.
OK now you are determined to ignore that, so!
You have a "sunk" cost, some potential current revenue expenditure and some future capex!
Hahaha.... I suppose I should proceed to calculate projected ROI, and perhaps an IRR as well just for the fun of it...
You are right.......she may just be the love of your life, AND YOU OF HERS! We just might all be wrong!!!!!!!!!!
I sure hope so, bro, but all the negativity here is playing on my mind.... now I am imagining all sorts of evil motives for every innocent thing she does.... it's like that Elvis song: "we can't go on together, with suspicious minds..."
Look on the bright side, but limit future losses! Leave your options open, but go into it with your eyes open, not just an ATM who will have his heart and his bank account ripped out.
It's my heart I'm worried about - I keep a pretty tight lid on the bank account.
Money in bank account - sunk!
Make sure you know where it is going......
get her to account for it..... (my friends wife presents a monthly statement with every satang accounted for!!)
Actually I could withdraw it all tomorrow - as TU pointed out, I have (and she has) full access through the Cirrus network. But she has promised me not to touch a single s'tang of it while she is with the Welshman, and I have to trust her on that. Beyond that, she has promised to ask permission from me every time she needs to use any of it.
Current expenditure..when you visit, what will she want? How much is she costing avery day? All your money? hers as well? What is her attitude to it? Listen to the others here. Their musings are based on bitter and hard earned experience!!!
Bro, she is the lowest maintenance chick I've ever been with. Big gifts so far have been a pair of sandals from a vendor on Sukhumvit for 195 THB, and a Speedo bikini and a hot little bra-and-panties set I got her at MBK (about 2000 THB for everything) when I was shopping for a swimsuit for myself. Most of our meals are from noodle vendors, the MBK food court, or Foodland.
As I've said earlier, at the end of each visit I give her 1000 THB for each day we spent together. Her attitude is totally mellow, she pays for the occasional taxi ride and BTS ticket, and best of all.... ever since the first time we did it, she loves it so much when I f_ck her tiny little ass.... brothers when I tell you this one's a keeper, I mean she's a K-E-E-P-E-R!
Think about your future together and what it is going to cost in the future. It could be far more than you think!
sam, I've done the math.... I've crunched the numbers (my degree is in finance, hehehe).... I've looked at the worst case scenario. I live in Los Angeles, bro, and no matter how I choose to calculate the damage this girl might cause me financially, it still comes out way cheaper than anything of comparable quality would set me back here in good ol' SoCal.... that is, if I could even find a girl over here who satisfies my needs and desires like she does.
JMHO
Thanks for taking the time, bro. You don't know how much it means to me to have some objective input to help me set things straight in my head when my girl's so far away, I miss her like fvcking crazy, and I get to "thinking too much..."
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:03 am on July 16, 2004
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dirty guru
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PAIN? Worth it?.....I know a girl that has a degree in political science, I mentioned you. She freelancers. I can even tell you her number later (when your done here) Word is based on the last report. If she lets you f_ck her arse, she is a pretty open freelancer. Most likely georgous and attracts alot of support. Has alot of repeat customers. And isnt that new to it. She also thinks, most girls say the virigin thing (not so long ago) And the old committment routine is to show that theres hope for you. She thinks she will lead you down the path $$$$ as far as she can, then dump you. She actually most likely has little respect for you, and enjoys hurting you emotionally, as its unusual to not conceal the other men involved. She also says, that you are a man that falls easy in love (and should be careful) This girl is dangerous, and just wants to hurt you, and take money. I am repeating this, because its being said by a girl of similar educational background that freelancers, (doesnt do anal) but is 25 cute, but not too devious. She says that she is likely to go to the highest bidder, and that your actually already aware thats her game. She is the one that asked for the joint account, and you are one of several guys. The acid test? I think is check her email account, it might shock you. Ofcourse if she refuses than there you have it. Your an amazing guy. Even anna thinks so. She said wish there were more like him approaching me these days. ""but then I wouldnt have the heart"" Harry,...your blind faith, is going to get you into trouble.....
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Posted on: 6:29 pm on July 16, 2004
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jack attack
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Harry,
Why would so many guys on this board be advising you to, at a minimum, watch out and more frequently tell you to run for the hills? That is because they have all heard the same or similar stories, had a heart aching for the true love, and then got stomped when they found out they had been made a fool of.
I have a buddy who is married to a TG and she never worked in bars, etc. She was an accountant before & after they met. He found out two years after they were married that his wife had been married before. Previously she told him that she had three boyfreinds in her past. For whatever reason, she could not tell him that she was married to one of them. And I am certain she absolutely loves this guy and is true and faithful to him.
It hasn't hurt their relationship much but you can imagine he was not pleased that she wouldn't have told him this before they got married.
The point is, back away at least a little and keep the money locked up. It can be like a narcotic to some girls. If she keeps coming after you without the $$$ that is a better indication of her feelings. But you have to realize the more you ply her with dough, the more she is likely to revert to her freelancer ways and keep you and all the other guys on the line.
Here's a hypothetical question for you... you meet a beautiful, young thing in LA. She is hot and takes to you, you have great rolls in the sack, she is affectionate but eventually tells you she has another boyfriend that she is going away with for a couple of months. She doesn't really love him but she says he is offering to take her to London and Europe. He's an older guy with what seems to be alot of dough.
Would you say to this girl, "I'll put US$ 5000 a month in a joint account at B of A for you to have" (5 G's cash is about 8 G's before taxes or US$ 96,000 annual salary - not bad pay in LA).
IMO, you wouldn't do that in LA and if you did, you could imagine the girl would suck you dry in no time flat.
Here's the question (s), why are you willing to do it in Thailand? Because it is less money? You believe that Thai girls wouldn't be as cut throat as American women?
You asked for advice... give it alot more time and keep your money in your pocket (not hers).
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:07 pm on July 16, 2004
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artful dodger
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harry,
I knew a guy,who the day before his wedding,was told by his bride,by the way I got a child,14mth old,he married her after a lot of soul searching.
I also married an asian,great for two years,a nightmare for the rest.
by the way what are your age differences?
If you go into a relationship with an asian,it's like buying a house,only go in with your eyes wide open,and that anything you spend,you will almost certainly lose in the future.
the cases of bleeding u dry are too numerous to mention
In fact,there are very few exceptions.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 11:37 pm on July 16, 2004
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Oz
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Bullsh_t! I know a number of very succesful Asian/Western marriages (both BG & non-BG). Go in with your attitude and your sure to f_ck up big time! The same care and understanding that goes into ANY marriage is necessary for a good chance of success!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:41 pm on July 16, 2004
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