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As someone wrote early on this thread, "deny, deny, deny."
Even if she knows that you know that she knows you did it, admitting to it is a slap in the face to her.
Mobile phones are an easy and obvious target. Then there are MSN chat logs and anything else on the computer. Friend of mine's girlfriend took it one step further- she wrote down the *condom serial numbers* of the ones he was keeping in his closet.
He was caught red-handed, but no wait- he said that Crash had asked to borrow some so he gave them to me.
"Deny, deny, deny."
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:33 am on Sep. 16, 2006
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dcutter
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Quote: from issanking on 7:28 am on Sep. 16, 2006
" I never had sexual relations with that woman"
And you never inhaled...and it all depends on what "is" is right....familiar rings of a US elected official, devoid of character....yet, like Crash says...."deny, deny, deny"! Plausible deniablility.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 1:01 am on Sep. 16, 2006
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Mel Gibson
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I'll never understand why people keep insisting it was a lie when announced " I never had sexual relations with that woman".
The man asked for a definition from the court regarding what was a "sexual relation", he did NOT lie, the court gave him the definition and he had ( as far as we know) not DONE WHAT WAS DESCRIBED.
I hate to see the innocent painted as guilty.
So nect time you are in SOL no need to feel guilty you are NOT having sexual relations
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:56 am on Sep. 16, 2006
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dcutter
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Quote: from Mel Gibson on 3:14 pm on Sep. 16, 2006
I hate to see the innocent painted as guilty.
I think it was a self-portrait Mel!
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 5:28 am on Sep. 16, 2006
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Dickin Situ
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A lot of sensible entries on this old thread.
Two of the most powerful ones are......
"...............just don't rub their faces in it................."
and
"...............deny, deny, deny........................."
However, I would wish to mention that most of the Thai girls that I have had the pleasure and the privilege of knowing biblically or otherwise, whether P4P or not, percieve falang, however knowledgeable of men's nature, to be less butterflying than Thai males and more likely to commit either completely or more honestly. I don't know if they are right about this. I don't know too many falang.
And yet, I get the impression and from my own experience that falang in general, come from societies where the sexual culture of their communities is not so open in the aspect of their sexual natures.
The very nature of having realtions with a lady in the West is bound within the Judai-Christian taboos, censures and strictures that do not readily accept two loving people and in fact view sex and love as something dirty and unholy and unclean. Thus, we have 'the dirtier, the sleazier, the better' inclination to contend with. The association of sin and evil and the personification of wrong and badness in the Devil, which seems to spice up the attractiveness of a casual encounter or long-term association.
The old Testament description of a woman or girl being a temple built over a sewer speaks volumes about their stance in relation to the physicality of a sexual union.
And it is quite obvious that in the sexual engagements that falang have been used to, there is a certain link to the clandestine nature of things surrounding these past relationships. It is, I think, therefore out of habit that in a lot of guys approach to a relationship, however long-term or casual,, they feel the need to cloak it in some clandestine web so as to preserve for them what they percieve to be the secrecy of its nature and linked inexorably to aspects of its privacy.
This secrecy is attractive to them and they see it as an essential ingredient of any association, feeling that keeping it as such, gives it a more enjoyable, exciting and tantilising aspect to the whole encounter or history of it.
I just wonder sometimes, reading through members accounts if they would enjoy it all so much if it was all so completely out in the open.
Personally, I can't stand someone telling me lies or being deceptive. To me, that is not an honest nor an open realtionship of any worth. I have to be completely open with the lady. If she can take me and want me for what I am, with all my faults, and if she can present herself to me in our relationship with all her faults, then what we have is all the stronger.
These teenage games of lying and pretending are beyond me. I am not a better man. Far from it. maybe it is my weakness. I honestly don't give a toss. I just don't want to be weighted down with the tension of having to remember what to switch off and when or what to delete or who to pretend is someone else.
I leave the spy games to others.
Either she wants me as I am and allows me to want her for what she is, or I just don't want to know.
Luckily for me, I have a gem. Her priority is my happiness. My priority is hers. But then, that is something to do with the nature of loving someone.
Allow me to mix metaphors by saying...roll the dice and just see where the chips may fall.
Don't hide behind a cloak of secrecy. It will bring you down. And you will have, like Othello, tossed away a jewel worth more than the whole tribe.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:20 am on Sep. 17, 2006
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dcutter
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I had a Kiwi buddy here in the sandbox tell me today that he can't be faithful to one woman, that would make him unfaithful to all the rest of them....pearls of wisdom
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:58 am on Sep. 17, 2006
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jayh
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I too have had to resort to the "holding on to condoms for a friend" line.
My gf sometimes looks through my SMSs, meticulously copies the messages and then gets someone who can read English to translate for her.
Also, for some reason, TG hair (not my GF's) occassionally appears in my apartment. I honestly don't know how this happens. When confronted, I assumed it must have been carried in on clothes with static electricity or something.
So I'm sitting there trying to explain hair and fiber transfer theory to a former Thai rice farmer with a rudimentary education.
Uh, could I get a little more info on that Hutchinson phone-prices, where to buy, ect. Sounds like just what the doctor ordered. The worst thing is when we are in the middle of the act and some other girl calls.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:49 am on Sep. 17, 2006
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LocalYokul
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Quote: from jayh on 5:07 pm on Sep. 17, 2006
meticulously copies the messages and then gets someone who can read English to translate for her.
I would never put up with this kind of annoying privacy violation from a GF, no f***in' way
trying to explain hair and fiber transfer theory to a former Thai rice farmer with a rudimentary education.
maybe you should just tell her it's f***in' there, you dont' know how it got there and to STFU about it ?
she would be wise to keep her mouth shut it seems
and maybe you would be wise to dump her if she's so under-educated
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 3:57 am on Sep. 17, 2006
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jayh
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LY,
The last time she did the SMS thing was over a year ago. I put my foot down on that issue. I should have used past tense for that part of my message.
Also, I honestly don't know how the hair gets there since I (almost) never bring girls to the room. We usually go to their place or get a ST hotel. My GF and I don't have much a problem with that anymore either. Earlier today, in fact she mentioned that she found hair in my place. I didn't comment and the matter was dropped.
One thing I have noticed is that even when I dated brilliant farang girls (I do love intelligence in a woman and would almost invariably attracted to the brightest attractive girls (and profs) in my college and grad school classes) find my). We rarely had intellectual discussions-it was just mostly day-to-day mundane stuff after a while.
My gf didn't have much of a chance to get a formal education, but I'm pretty happy with her.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 5:22 am on Sep. 17, 2006
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seajohn
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Dickin Situ,
You're probably right in that if it were out in the open it might be less enjoyable: stolen meat tastes sweet.
However you have offered us an interesting apple...
I don't think you are proposing that those who are not capable of absolute marital sexual fidelity should not be married. I'm not sure I could go along with that either, since whether by nature or nurture most of the Western men I know here are not capable. The collision of our old environment with that of Thailand breeds sexual philandering. And yet marriage, for the children's sake, seems to still be instinctually desired (at least until the offspring can walk around and grab things themselves...) And so we seem to be in a conundrum.
I don't really think that you are proposing that we confess our accidents, were we ever to have one, and eventually the pain of continued confessions would would train us to preserve our fidelity. I don't believe that it is manly to confess something fleeting to someone whom you know it will hurt. Lightening your load by putting it on another. The desire to protect those whom we love, even from ourselves... walks a line between contempt and selflessness. The birth of conscience.
I think you are proposing an openness from the very beginning... I worry that nature may not be on your side in this, as deception seems a common step during the courting dance for many an animal... However, if there is any freedom we as men can tear out of the innards of chaos... Do you envision a humanity in which aiming toward truth is considered the most attractive quality of character? That is very inspiring. Maybe in the future some new social organization will accomodate us more cleanly. But I live now. In the midst of things. Maybe your poem will help me.
I do not have a solution to these seeming contradictions within a Faust or a man. The only thing I am sure of is that when one repeats a painful action, one naturally becomes callous to it, eventually deadened. One is playing with a mercury that could be dangerous to one's feelings, while in lesser doses it is merely stimulating....
I should also admit that I do not believe that what is good for the gander is also good for the goose. As if we were the same!
Claws and all, it seems...
It is interesting how you have linked secrecy to all our relations, as being a desired element in them. At this point I, like you, wonder how much we'd anything without some mystery to it.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:24 am on Sep. 17, 2006
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