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mykal:
I can see where you are coming from, but I am not sure you have all the facts about Nokna.
I am not out to defend Nokna, because he can do that himself!! So, don't direct things are me like I'm his "momma"!! ha ha ha ha!!!
Just want to give my 2 cents!!
First .... I see that you joined in the month of July. That means you have been reading comments on this forum for about 3 months. I think it's possible that you might have missed some vital information about his condomless actions.
Secondly ... you are entitled to your opinions, but why so harsh?? Digusts you?? " ".. give the ladies and yourself some respect??"
Lastly, I agree with your opinion about using condoms and would be the first to stand up and cheer. I think that it is the responsible thing to do.
But ... if both parties (Nokna and the female) agrees to not use one, then you have two consenting adults and that is that.
BUT .... from what I've read and this is my opinion!!
Nokna, at times prefers not to use a condom, but uses one if the females asks him to. Also, I believe that he has only NOT used a condom 4 times and those are with his regulars.
Why do I know this, because I asked him about why he did not use a condom in an earlier forum.
No flames from me, just comments!!
A side comment ................
I think that if anyone wants to give some self respect back to the females, then it's to pay them a good amount to take them out and NOT have sex with them. Let the females know that it's okay to hang with a male and not be expected to spread their legs and just take it.
Try it. They have a blast and you can see the real female laughing and having a good time!!!
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Posted on: 12:27 pm on Sep. 17, 2002
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No it does not disgust me. ÝHe is a grown man and is responsible for his own actions. ÝI pointed out his behavior to prove a point. ÝI don't care if he does or he doesn't but if he can dish it out then he should be prepared to take it. Ý
I have been reading these posts and such for about 6 months I just applied for a password at the 3 month point when I got back from my third trip in order to give you all a report as I have benefitted from the information I secured on this website! ÝThanks again all even amongst the flames I have really appreciated the exchange of information.
No one defended me when I was flamed by others and I don't want anyone to. ÝI am perfectly capable of defending myself. ÝHowever when you defend others you create a "gang mentality" and certain members may feel intimidated by this. ÝI am not one of those people, however if you care about free exchange of information maybe you ought to let those defend themselves one on one. ÝNo one likes to feel cornered.
Now as far as you feeling it is ok to go condomless if the female agrees then I wonder if you applaud my pricing structure if the female also agrees? ÝTwo consenting adults... ÝRight? ÝI await your stand and applause on that one! Ý*LOL* ÝIf two consenting adults agree on the no condom issue and one is HIV positive and passes it on to the other then where does the rest of the brotherhood, the LOS, the world stand? Ý ÝTwo consenting adults does not cut the mustard on that one. ÝI don't want to hear about "oh well we got tested" either because of the three month window period. ÝThat does not cut it either. ÝI may now be ruffling the feathers of many more members of this board who have varying degrees of excuse over condom usage. ÝBut hey, lets put the cards on the table... ÝIf you are going to be the moral police, serve some warrants on yourself first and see what you come up with...
"And by the way, I think that if anyone wants to give some self respect back to the females, then it's to pay them a good amount to take them out and NOT have sex with them. Let the females know that it's okay to hang with a male and not be expected to spread their legs and just take it.
Try it. They have a blast and you can see the real female laughing and having a good time!!!"
This is where I might get some well deserved flames. ÝI come to LOS to have sex with the women, to sample the food, peruse Panthip Plaza, buy a few shirts at MBK etc. ÝI don't come to deny myself sex with any woman. ÝALL BETS ARE OFF! Ý*S* ÝI can stay home and do that. ÝIf thats what you want to do, have fun. ÝI take the women to the movies, out to eat and we constanly talk about various things. ÝIf she is not talkative then I loose interest. ÝI too care about what is on their minds. ÝHowever SEX IS ALWAYS ON THE MENU. Ý If I were an expat then I doubt I would even go to the bars. ÝI would try to learn the language (I have been for the last year) and go to Ýmalls, clubs etc. to pick up women the way I am used to in the states. ÝKind of futile in my opinion to do that in LOS with a 10 day vacation and not knowing the language. ÝOk I am rambling so I will end this.
Again my piddly two cents to be taken or left...
Mykal
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Posted on: 1:09 pm on Sep. 17, 2002
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I always have to laugh at those who think some sort of price control on our part is going to make any difference. It is downright impossible to change such a large market with so few people, and the "movement" will never build because it is not just against human nature, but the laws of economics.
On the other hand, you can blame the Japanese (if you're american) for the high prices. ÝBut then you can also blame the Americans if you're an Aussie! ÝThe big swings in the economy in Thailand and abroad will make prices go up and down. During the huge Japanese economic boom, the Japanese were the direct cause of prices going up for many things; I don't blame them for that, it's just the way the free market has to work. Also any restrictions on the free market (e.g. zoning laws, stricter controls, etc.) will change the prices.
If you want to pay only 1000B for a ST, that's up to you. If I pay 3000 or 5000 or 10000 it's not going to affect your price unless you're going after the same girl on the same night.
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Posted on: 1:44 pm on Sep. 17, 2002
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Chompoo:
Excellent post. Could not add anything else, since you've said it all.
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Posted on: 1:46 pm on Sep. 17, 2002
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mykal:
My intentions were before things get out of hand to enlighten you with some information/opinions.
As I stated ìI am not out to defend Nokna, because he can do that himself!!î
Feeling cornered?? I can understand if my response to you was aggressively, but I responded in a civil way. If you took that also as "gang mentality" then I guess you have a lot to learn.
Maybe I shouldíve not said anything about Nokna. Too late and too bad.
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Posted on: 1:54 pm on Sep. 17, 2002
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with treating the bargirls as providers of a service and negotiating the lowest possible price. ÝThe amount of money the buyer has (how much they earn) is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is how cheaply the provider is willing to sell the service for. ÝThere's no reason to be rude, deceitful or manipulative while negotiating, however.
IMO, it's immoral to pay for sex, unless you treat it as a commodity. ÝOnce you start talking about the girl's emotions and the precious gift she's offering you, it becomes offensive to put a price on it.
Mykal's philosophy for dealing with the girls is refreshingly honest.
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Posted on: 1:55 pm on Sep. 17, 2002
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mykal
Back to the topic of not using a condom.
Have you always use a condom with your gf or wife?? ÝAnd I said always. Have you never not used a condom?? If a female ... ANY female choses not to use one and the male is okay with it then what can you do. They are two consenting Adults!!! If they both understand the risks, then they have to take responsibility if any situations come up afterwards because of it, then so be it.
Just like if you and your gf or wife chose not to use one, it's one in the same. I am not saying your wife or gf is the same as a prostitute in BKK. All I am saying is that you and she made that choice.
Like I said, I am one to advocate safe sex and Ýthe usage of condoms no matter what country a person is in.
Now Ö.
You also bring up a valid point about testing. Again, how many times have you been tested, as well as your past/present sexual partners?? If you have not been tested, then how you do know you are not spreading the virus??
Morality?? Where in the heck did you get that from my posts?? Your post is the one that is coming from the moral high ground. Why don't you take a look in the mirror?? Ý
Okay. Let's throw the cards on the table!!
1. ÝI have been tested recently for STD's as well as HIV. Tests are negative. I have no reason to be tested, but I get test every 1 1/2 - 2 years depending. My doctor thinks I am crazy because my lifestyle does not warrant continual testing.
2. ÝI do not to go BKk to get laid. It's not like I can not get any action in the U.S ÝI am there because my company sends me their for business.
3. When I am in BKK I am there for the culture/food, as well as females. ÝWhich also brings us to the comment of knowing a language. How many languages do you know and why does that matter in visiting other countries.
And from your post, the only reason you would want to learn the language is to pick up females. Talk about sleazy!!! I have been to many other countries and learned about the different cultures to better understand the people and not go get into their pants.
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No moral high ground here.
My comments were not intended for that purpose and should not be taken in the manner!!
Just my comment about myself.
Everyone is free to do what they want. I would not condem someone for going to BKK just for sex, nor for paying for it.
"It's whatever floats your boat!!"
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Posted on: 2:05 pm on Sep. 17, 2002
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I said it does create that mentality but I personally don't feel cornered. ÝIf you read my post again ÝI said it may make others feel that way but it does not me. ÝI am not afraid to exchange information with anyone as long as they are respectable in their exchanges which so far you are. ÝHowever you do create that "gang" mentality although I have seen worse degrees of it on this board in other instances... ÝI am not a pussy, I stand and deliver; whether its one or many. ÝI will NOT defend anyone on this board however because we should be able to defend ourselves one on one and account for our own words or actions...
Mykal
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Posted on: 2:09 pm on Sep. 17, 2002
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mykal
Back to the topic of not using a condom.
Have you always use a condom with your gf or wife?? And I said always. Have you never not used a condom?? If a female ... ANY female choses not to use one and the male is okay with it then what can you do. They are two consenting Adults!!! If they both understand the risks, then they have to take responsibility if any situations come up afterwards because of it, then so be it.
**** I am not married and when I did have a girlfriend yes I always used a condom. (I do this for birth control reasons too)
Just like if you and your gf or wife chose not to use one, it's one in the same. I am not saying your wife or gf is the same as a prostitute in BKK. All I am saying is that you and she made that choice.
**** We chose or rather I chose to use one.
Like I said, I am one to advocate safe sex and the usage of condoms no matter what country a person is in.
**** You advocate safe sex but you also seem to advocate not using one in certain instances, because (IMO) it follows your personal guidebook of what is morally right. I have no problem with that to each his own...
Now Ö.
You also bring up a valid point about testing. Again, how many times have you been tested, as well as your past/present sexual partners?? If you have not been tested, then how you do know you are not spreading the virus??
**** I have been tested 4 times in my life (which were over the last 5 years) and was tested about 6 mos ago. Yes, negative... I have had protected sex since then. With all due respect my partners are none of your beezwax...
Morality?? Where in the heck did you get that from my posts?? Your post is the one that is coming from the moral high ground. Why don't you take a look in the mirror?? And you want to come at me about morality.
**** No my post is simply to prove that no one should cast the first stone unless he/she is without sin. He dished it out, he got it back. I wanted him to know how it feels. (Hey Nokna I did not mean to go to the extent that I did with my post to you but hey if person A punches person B and person B breaks his jaw and his nose and his arm, is he wrong for defending himself? No person A got what he deserved for opening that particular can of worms. I do however LIKE you Nokna and outside of your post to me have NO problems with you. Play on Nokna!)
By the way I did just look in the mirrior and I LIKE WHAT I SEE! *LOL*
Okay. Let's throw the cards on the table!!
1. I have been tested recently for STD's as well as HIV. Tests are negative. I have no reason to be tested, but I get test every 2 years anyways.
**** So you say that to say what? That and a token will get me uptown. I for one do not care about your test history that is your business and your responsibility to yourself...
2. I do not to go BKk to get laid. It's not like I can not get any action in the U.S
**** Again, not my business what you come here for whether it be to go to the temples or Nana, do what makes you happy! Who cares about your action? If you were really a player (one who gets action) you would not be so quick to point it out. A REAL player does not do that.
3. When I am in BKK I am there for the culture/food, as well as females. Which also brings us to the comment of knowing a language. How many languages do you know and why does that matter in visiting other countries.
**** Je parle francais comme ci comme ca... Or if you want me to be polite "Nous parlons"...
And from your post, the only reason you would want to learn the language is to pick up females. Talk about sleazy!!! I have been to many other countries and learned about the different cultures to better understand the people and not go get into their pants.
**** No I would learn the language to try to get along in the country I would be living in. Your perception of why is simply that YOURS! YOU connotated that out of my post I said that is one of the things I would do but yes it would help in picking up women. I for one don't believe you should relocate to any other country and not learn the language but there are those that do and thats fine for me if it is for them...
Unlike you I don't let my dick do the thinking. My other head is where my brain lives in.
**** Well be careful where you sit! Again you connotate that my dick does the thinking based on my posts. So be it you are entitled to your opinion. I have no problem with your perception of me. The grass still grows and the sun still shines...
Mykal
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Posted on: 2:10 pm on Sep. 17, 2002
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Too often, I have seen girls in Thermae (one of the ultimate areas for free market pussy) turn down an early evening ST for B700 in hopes that B1,000 will come along. It doesn't and the girl goes home much later and with less baht. As pussy is an asset that has a shelf life, then every opportunity squandered makes no sense from a theoretical standpoing. But Thai girls and logic are not always found in the same room.
What they're doing makes perfect sense, but they may not have optimized the numbers. ÝIf they get 1000B, 2 out of 3 nights, that beats getting 700B all three nights, IMO.
But, in a way, aren't they also doing just what punters try to do, i.e. fix prices? They might get it to work somewhat in a single club, but it won't work across such a huge market as the Bkk prostitution scene.
In general, the strategy of asking for a high price earlier in the night and then lowering it later works for everyone. The big spenders can come early and have their pick of the girls, the guys looking for a bargain come later and get their choice at a cheaper price.
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Posted on: 2:13 pm on Sep. 17, 2002
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