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ColoradoGuy

Quote: from ColoradoGuy on 7:47 am on June 23, 2004
I guess I go back and forth on this good/bad punter vs. good/bad bargirl, depending on my recent mood and latest experience. Right now, I think the customers are the 'players'.
OK, now after reading the post directly above this one, the old CG is back. That was fast!


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Posted on: 10:06 am on June 23, 2004
Packripper

Quote: from HarryParatestes on 9:38 pm on June 23, 2004


I may have found the diamond in the rough so many of us are searching for, but she is now being whisked away to jolly old England on a one month visa by a short fat Welsh builder who fell in love with her on his first trip to LOS over new year's holiday.



One good reason why not just anyone can be a jeweler. Kidding.







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Posted on: 10:23 am on June 23, 2004
ThaidUp
Help me understand one thing here. How do you know he is a short fat Welch builder? Pics? Email from her?

It would also complete the picture if was old, bald and drinks heavily.

I would not classify her in the player category. I put TG's in that category in ones that have no intentions of moving out of Thailand and get multiple sponsers.

Probably your girl is searching for a better life and will pick the best suitor. Nothing wrong with that. Being that she told you what is going on is a big step in credability.


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Posted on: 10:32 am on June 23, 2004
LivinLOS
Its what she does for a living... Learn to accept it or provide her with a lifestyle (preferably with you full time) where she does not have to do it..

I have emotional attachments with many great girls... Recently one went especially heavy on me and I was semi relieved to know she had a prior setup to head to Europe for a few months before we met...

Long story short as soon as she headed off to BKK to get the visa I got 100's of SMS, calls and emails from her saying she regretted that she had ever agreed (all before we met and she told me within a few days of staying together, she was totally straight about it) and if I told her to she would back out of it etc...

At the time I was a little freaked at her attentions and also as she had never left Thailand (and Laos) before encouraged her to go and see me later... The situation is similar in that he is way older than her (but I am about her age plus after night 1 never did she ask me for money though I did take care of her) and to me its just a way for Thai girls to get out there and see the world, fill a wardrobe, get some sponsors, get some experience.

Currently I am not looking for any heavy emotional commitments so it was not painful for me in the same way it may be for you but when she phoned crying from the airport the day she was flying to Europe it did pull a string or two..

If the girl loves you (and she may) set her free... if she comes back she is yours... If she does not she never was !!!

Relax and try and not worry too much... Love is short.. Thailand is full of wonderful women (but the diamonds ARE worth holding onto)... Dont let it twist your head like a typical Euro or Yank... It takes a while but you get the swing of Thailand soon enough...


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Posted on: 10:35 am on June 23, 2004
HarryParatestes

Quote: from ColoradoGuy on 10:06 pm on June 23, 2004

Quote: from ColoradoGuy on 7:47 am on June 23, 2004
I guess I go back and forth on this good/bad punter vs. good/bad bargirl, depending on my recent mood and latest experience. Right now, I think the customers are the 'players'.
OK, now after reading the post directly above this one, the old CG is back. That was fast!



I think if you read the email, you'd go right back to the other side of the equation. Only she and I know what has gone between us, but trust me on this one -- her heart is every bit as much in play as mine is.

Not to flatter myself or sound arrogant, but there are more than a couple of ladies competing for my affections at the moment and she is the only one who is a prostitute; attracting women has never been a problem for me. Believe me, I've got nothing to prove to anyone here, but just so the brothers can better understand the situation, in all modesty I am pretty well above average in most areas ladies care about, i.e. facial appearance, physical fitness, endowment, and financial condition.

So why am I a whoremonger you might ask? Maybe you should ask Charlie Sheen or Hugh Grant the same question. Charlie almost got hitched to a porn star (remember Ginger Lynn?). Believe it or not there are those of us who are plenty capable of seducing women outside of the p4p arena, but for a variety of reasons find pleasure in the company of someone who is sexually very sophisticated and uninhibited.

Sure, the girls tell almost everyone he is a hansum man, but did you ever stop to think in some cases it might actually be true? Yes, some of the ladies will tell you they love you after a couple of hours and ask for sponsorship, gifts, or money for sick buffalo, but I believe some of them are in fact looking for someone who can love them and accept them for who and what they are; someone nice looking and financially secure who's physically fit and not a drinker, someone who truly cares about them and their family rather than just wanting to come in their face....

All I can tell you, my brothers, is..... the saga continues. If anyone is interested I will keep y'all posted on how things are progressing -- it looks like for the next two months at least, my emotions are gonna require that four-wheel drive vehicle the dirty guru was referring to.


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Posted on: 10:53 am on June 23, 2004
HarryParatestes

Quote: from ThaidUp on 10:32 pm on June 23, 2004
Help me understand one thing here. How do you know he is a short fat Welch builder? Pics? Email from her?

It would also complete the picture if was old, bald and drinks heavily.



Actually she described him as:

well he is 31 years old from Wales,he is a builder,a house (he do business with other friend) I don't care about how much money he has...but when I spend time with him,,,,he seems like still a little boy...eat a lot of food ( he is a little bit fat and short) and get angry easily too....i don't think we can fit for each other.......

I don't know if he is bald but she loves my hair and always comments how other men must be jealous of it, so that may be the case. He is Welsh, so I imagine drinking heavily would go with the territory (hehe, just kidding my Welsh brothers). He is closer to her age than I am, but I think that factor is actually working against him rather than for him.

Keep in mind that I have never really asked about him; this is all information she has volunteered to me because she is trying to be honest.


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Posted on: 11:05 am on June 23, 2004
ColoradoGuy

Quote: from ThaidUp on 10:32 am on June 23, 2004
I would not classify her in the player category. I put TG's in that category in ones that have no intentions of moving out of Thailand and get multiple sponsers.
Well, maybe the word 'player' isn't the right one. I guess I'm just referring to a girl who knows the way the game is played, making sure that one punter doesn't completely drop off the fence while she is temporarily out-of-play. Or telling PunterA that she has to go with PunterB to take care of her family, but PunterB is bald, fat and stupid and her heart is really with PunterA.

Maybe even calling it a "game" is unfair, as the girl is looking out for her best interests. If she can do this and it's acceptable and believable to all parties, I say more power to her. Good for her!

My original post in this thread was that making the girls promises, telling them they are the only one, profess undying love, making them think you are there for them emotionally, etc. is how they get hardened. I stand by this position.

ThaidUp, I remember you saying something similar in a thread about a week ago, right?


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Posted on: 11:06 am on June 23, 2004
chrisboy

Quote: from HarryParatestes on 8:05 am on June 23, 2004
No DG, I said I DIDN'T wire any money into her account. All I gave her when I was there was 1000THB a night and she stayed with me 24/7, and yes, I did get anal.


haha... what a joke!! 1000THB a nite and u expect a TG to be faithful and wait for yr return??

take a number man....


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Posted on: 12:22 pm on June 23, 2004
Bangkoksexydotcom
never ever trust that ask money for sex its just not to be when you go home. Keep her as long as you stay but then snap it out when the planes lift off
Look at the cute people serving you in the plane


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Posted on: 12:36 pm on June 23, 2004
ColoradoGuy

Quote: from HarryParatestes on 6:27 pm on June 22, 2004
..we exchanged daily emails as usual, then there was bit of a lapse in her replies (like four days or so) and I got into the predictable 'wondering what's up' mode......
If she is going abroad for someone, give her a chance to try to build something with this guy instead of insisting you stay on her list (which requires work on her part to maintain). If you were bringing a TG overseas, how would you like previous customers staying in touch with her?

I don't care what she tells you about the guy, it doesn't matter if it is true or not. Hell, there may be no other guy, this might be her way of cutting off contact. Who knows. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

Harry, I suggest you go back to your post that started this thread. It should be clear to you why she lapsed in her replies for 4 days, you know she was giving a GFE to a now-satisfied customer, who I'm certain paid her more than 1000 baht per day. When you called her it 3am, you know she was with a customer, not a 'friend'. She was doing you a service not telling you these things, she assumes you know, but she knows it is her job to tell one customer "I no have other customer", "I go see family", "I no love other man, only you", etc.

You called her beautiful, you said the sex was fabulous, and gave her an average of only 1000baht per day, were with her 24/7 (and you said you even did her in the ass) ! Wow, I can see why this gave you the impression she was not all about money. If all of this is tru, you really have a good deal going here, but you have to know that the treatment you were getting was the GFE (girl-friend experience). The key word there is 'experience'. It is something that when it happens, you believe it is real and you enjoy it. Convincing, isn't it?

She did nothing to break your heart, you did this to yourself by coming back to falangland and believing your GFE was real, she is not to blame. She probably sensed you really liked the attention she gave you, and she did and said what she thought you would like. It worked. She did what you asked of her (above and beyond, probably) and you paid her for. I suggest you get yourself sane by:

a) Forgetting about what she does to make money, forgetting about other guys she sees, forgetting about how she makes money. All this needs to be forgotten in order to enjoy yourself! When you go back to BKK, if she is there, see her, get the GFE and then go home. Don't make promises to her, don't give her anything to rely on emotionally and don't expect her to have you as a part of her life when you are not in Bangkok. It is not fair to her. If she's not in BKK, there are other girls who will be happy to give you the GFE.

or

b) Quit your job, dump your permanent falang girlfriend and move to BKK and invest in her emotionally and see if this will work between you and her.

If, after doing "a) " above, then you can do "b) ", that is OK too, but don't be on the fence.

The choice, as always, is "up to you", but anything in-between these two choices is really unfair to you and to her, in my opinion.

Just one man's view from 35,000 feet (literally, I just love Internet access from up here, it makes cross-country flights go much faster).


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Posted on: 1:20 pm on June 23, 2004
     

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