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Bok Hah
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Quote: from Frank La Rue on 11:04 pm on June 20, 2004
I think it is possible to reconcile the two views:
Which of the Bar Girls at FLB would BigDUSA mary and why or why not.
55555! Nice analogy dude!
echoing DG's post with regards to the family values, I spent a year in the boonies ( Between Kalasin and Kohn Kaen) with my wife's family, little was required of me, except to help around the house etc.
When we returned a few years later bearing 2 sons, the amount of affection shown to our kids was immeasurably more than any Farang relative had displayed in the UK/USA. It's a part of Thai life that you can't really comment about until you become a member of the clan, not just a punter who visits a BG in Isaan for a few days.
I also Adopted my wife's 3 year old son, her husband died before his birth, my friends in the UK mentioned that they felt sorry for me, and that they couldn't raise another mans child. I feel sorry for them, that they feel so little for their self-esteeem and their partners worth that they would have to even think about such a decision.
Go tell Sa-teef, BigD, tell him he's good to go..
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:05 pm on June 20, 2004
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BigDUSA
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Frank,
I would not marry a P4P women here in the US nor would I marry a P4P BG in Thailand. At the end of the day there is to much baggage that goes along with them.
I would take the time to learn the language and move here. There are so many non P4P woman available if a guy want to take the time to meet them.
DG,
I didn't say all guys who come to LOS have problems just a fair % of the GUYS I HAVE MET PERSONALLY. You made a excellent post that I want to respond to later today.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 6:19 pm on June 20, 2004
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Frank La Rue
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All:
There is a fine line between being an optimist and being naive.
I personally live my life balancing this line and allthough I fall by the wayside on both sides from time to time, it has been a good life.
Hence I choose to believe in love with a Thai Girl untill there is a law in LOS that legalized marriage beteen Bar Girls and ATM machines.
My wife-to-be has an 8 yr old daughter. She ( my TG) has told my ex-wife (yes, they talk) that she - the daughter - is the result of rape, but she has not told me, but my ex showed me the email. Rape, unfortunately is more common in Thai culture than here.
I am willing to include the daughter but the discussion is more on the issue of whether it is a good thing or a bad thing to take the 8 yr old out of her culture. The answers I don't know, but being optimist and/or naive I know the cource of action will emerge and we will all live with the consequences.
I have not forgotten Ronald Reagans Sovjet policy: trust but with control, Hence, control of my assets is in the back of my mind.
BigD: Yes, hence my chosen path not living in LOS, go via an agency and invest 3 years on the relationship before taking it further. It may fail or succeed, but it is time to live a little.
No risk - No life.
And - oh yes, I forgot to mention: Going for it FEELS GREAT!
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:25 pm on June 20, 2004
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canomad
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Maybe some of you have seen my post on DNA testing. I will post a full story line on that in a few weeks when everthing plays out. I think that it may help others that view this board looking for something other than monger advice. But it will show that BigD is a distorted view.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 6:36 pm on June 20, 2004
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Frank La Rue
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C'mad - looking forward to your storyline
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 6:39 pm on June 20, 2004
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BigDUSA
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Bok Hah,
I've been with many different women from different cultures and different countries. I've been happily married 3 times.
One thing I've learned about women. They are all different but almost all want the same thing. Partner that loves then, respects them, kids that are healthy and happy and a home, nothing fancy just a place when you come home you feel the warmth and love. Men want the same thing. So do BG, I don't think they are a sub species that should be scorned and the guys who have followed my posts over the years know I don't think that way. I ask questions that guys don't want to answer because they haven't thought it thru.
Just because I haven't married a BG doesn't mean my opinion has no validity as I have years of experience with women.
Some guys so much want the illusion to be real, it's scary and sad.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:42 pm on June 20, 2004
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ABC
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BigDUSA:
Great post two posts. I agree with what you wrote.
Quote: from BigDUSA on 8:28 pm on June 20, 2004
The guy who comes here on a two week vacation the women are a powerful drug. You think you hit nirvana with one. For the two weeks that your here all you have is is a summer love, hot passionate and it tends to burn out after a few month's.
SWEEPING GENERALIZATION AHEAD
For the most part Thai women don't travel well.
They are bound to their family very tightly.
They don't adjust well to cold climate with few friends and a husband who's gone all day working.
They get bored easily and they have a hard time with the reality that your not a rich man back in your home country and you have to budget.
Adult BG seem to have the emotional maturity of a 15 y/o. See how they act when things don't go well. Some will trash all your stuff when you are gone.
So ya wanna marry a Thai women bunky. No problem if your willing to move to LOS and away from the nite life
in BKK or Pattaya preferably back to her home village so she can be close to her kid/kids and you have to go native except for the squat toilet be willing to learn the language and the culture and damn near a million other things to make the adjustment.
I've heard the same things from club owners, tg and bg's about marriage to a non-Thai that wants to bring her abroad. That they don't acclimate very well to their new surroundings. And that it's much better for the marriage if she stays in Thailand. That is not to say that things can't work out abroad, but as you pointed out there are a million other things to deal with.
As for the family issue, I have to say that that is common in most asian families. Family comes first and eventhough the guy marries teh female, he really marries the entire family. Of course there are different degree's of the family intervention, which could rankge from monetary support to just a phone call every month. BUt....right or wrong, that's the way it is. And trying to change that will only add more conflict to the relationship.
Quote: from BigDUSA
One thing I've learned about women. They are all different but almost all want the same thing.
Partner that loves then, respects them, kids that are healthy and happy and a home, nothing fancy just a place when you come home you feel the warmth and love.
Men want the same thing. So do BG, I don't think they are a sub species that should be scorned....
Some guys so much want the illusion to be real, it's scary and sad.
The illusion is a very powerfull thing, but hopefully those that go visit bkk for the p4p will be able to figure things out before it's to late.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:55 pm on June 20, 2004
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issanking
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i agree with one point of bigdusa, imagine your in uk usa eurotrash land and u go to a bar brothel find a nice girl which says all the right things that you want to hear do u marry her there and then I do'nt think so. and yes there are many thai ladies not in the p4p that would love to meet a farang yes money is there but number 1 has to be long term love that they have not got from a thai man, I have dated many like this but then i'm half thai and speak 90% thai has I grew up in the uk.
THOUGHT: the thai man is insecure his girl will leave him for a fallang with money BUT the fallang is equally insecure his girl will leave him for a thai culture looks and face
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:18 pm on June 20, 2004
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issanking
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sorry forgot to say bok haa I liked your last post straight from the heart and can kinda relate to this
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 8:20 pm on June 20, 2004
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aircrest
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whether it is a good thing or a bad thing to take the 8 yr old out of her culture.
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Mine was 10 and could not get out fast enough and never looked back. Was it the culture or his mother I have no idea and never discuss it. I do know education was a big part of it.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 8:48 pm on June 20, 2004
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