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ColoradoGuy

Quote: from scobie on 2:14 am on May 27, 2005
There's a lot of talk on this forum about the fabled 'GFE'. I don't understand the concept. I don't want the illusion of a girlfriend. I want a girlfriend. Unfortunately, having a girlfriend brings shit as well as roses. It involves effort and rewards, fights and make-ups, misunderstandings and moments of clarity.
Many people have effort and rewards, fights and make-ups, misunderstandings and moments of clarity with their girlfriends outside of their visits to LOS, the last thing they need is another real girlfriend. When they are in LOS, why would they need or want another one? For them, a GFE (or 2 or 3) on a trip is the only way to go. Or do short-times. For someone like this, chasing "good-girls" is not really an effective use of their time.

Now if you live there all the time, like you do, I can understand your position.


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Posted on: 9:17 am on May 27, 2005
DaffyDuck

Quote: from Scobie on May 27, 2005

Unfortunately, having a girlfriend brings shit as well as roses. It involves effort and rewards, fights and make-ups, misunderstandings and moments of clarity.



I think you just answered your own question - as the GFE (when you pick it right) gives you many of the positives, with nary any of the negatives - which, as CG pointed out, is precisely what works best for guys on a timer.

Certainly, there will always be the guys that seek the same kind of misery in their lives, because they bring it along with them, but for the most part, guys look for a vacation experience, without troubles -- I know, I do (though, in my case, I do maintain too many relationships with girls to keep this ideal [i.e. I don't raise anchor and move on], but it works for me).

Ditto for you - you gotta find what works for you, and if right now that is a bona fide girlfriend, than more power to you...

DvQ!



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Posted on: 10:45 am on May 27, 2005
Bangkok Chang

Hugh, I was going to say that 12 months seems to be the magic time-span. Reason? These girls aren't silly. they know a lot of guys come here:

1) On 3 month tourist visas. Your chances of finding a genuine girlfriend in your first three months are ZERO. These guys have such a reputation as sex tourists the girls aren't interested.

2) As "teachers" on one-year visas. What respectable girl wants to spend a year getting banged up by a guy who is going home at the end of the year?

3) As ex-pat workers on short-term contracts. As for 2 above.

4) As either 2 or 3 but with established positions, making serious efforts to learn the language and culture. These are the guys the respectable girls are looking for.


1,2 and 3 get lumbered with the gold-diggers as their only option. My guess Hugh is that you are now one of the "4" group and the girl has known you long enough to believe it.

I went out with the new lady-friend and her sister again last night. Next time, I have been informed, the sister stays at home.


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Posted on: 8:15 pm on May 27, 2005
PolePolisher

Quote: from Hugh Jardon on 7:58 pm on May 27, 2005


I'm marrying my Fiancee on 11th June having known her for 11 months, but having only been with her in person for 12 days.



Hugh - I gotta ask, isn't that a dangerously short time to know someone before marrying them, even for someone of your own culture and background let alone a Thai?

Oh and by the way congratulations and best of luck with the impending nuptials.


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Posted on: 5:44 am on May 28, 2005
Brocher
12 days, 12 years? You might have more chance of staying with somebody if you got to know them for longer but not always.

In any relationship (with BG or not) I think that it's the quality of the time you spend with somebody that's important not the duration. 12 days of bliss is a good indicator that the rest "should" be good.

Now, if you have quality time for a long time then you're quids in and destined to a future of happiness.

<cue the music>.


Cheerio


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Posted on: 6:05 am on May 28, 2005
Hugh Jardon
PP
Maybe 12 days of actually being together in person does seem a short time, granted. But we were together every minute of that time, (apart from when one or other of us used the public conveniences when out and about!) We talked together, ate, slept, walked, shopped, did touristy things, made love together.
The thing is, that I was 90% sure that I wanted to marry her even before we met. The meeting and time together made it a certainty for me.
As for the 11 months of contact on the internet, that has been on a daily basis, sometimes two or three times a day. We often use a combination of Text messages, MSN Messenger (with webcam), telephone and emails. On the previous Mayday Bank holiday Monday, we were online together continuously for 6 hours!
I have no doubts about whether it will work out between us, because we love each other.
My ex came over yesterday to leave some clothes for our daughter. I showed her the DVD of our holiday in Phuket and she voiced all those same doubts that us guys know so well from Farang women.; she's too young for you, she's only after a British passport/ better standard of life, she's a gold digger, etc.
I took one look at her, 54, grown fat and grey, frumpy and opinionated. I then looked at the screen at that pretty, young, adorable and lovely example of blossomed Thai womanhood. And I knew right away that it is worth taking a chance on her, that she would make me a very happy and lucky guy.


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Posted on: 8:19 am on May 28, 2005
LiamOZ
Best wishes to you & the new missus.
Liam


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Posted on: 9:14 pm on May 28, 2005
Bangkok Chang


I have no doubts about whether it will work out between us, because we love each other.
My ex came over yesterday...


People's opinions of one-another can change. I presume you loved your "ex" at some point.

I do wish you luck, Hugh, but 11 months on the internet is like Disneyland. All the rough edges are smoothed out. People can't steal from you in a chat room. They can't attack you with a bread knife, and they don't smell either!

That said, I'm sure you will follow your heart and I wish you well.


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Posted on: 1:03 am on May 29, 2005
     

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