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I know a lot of the arab guys come in a buy girls to take them back to be domestic help or whatever.  Where do they go? How much do they cost? What are the pitfalls?  I heard of one German guy who bought a girl and was stopped at the airport, but since she didn't object, they were sent on their way.  I know that there are places in BKK that you can go.  I don't want to get into the whole morality thing, because we could help this girl send money home and a life with my family would be easier than in some saudi prince's 'paradise'


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Posted on: 6:19 pm on June 7, 2002
thaiprivateeye
depends what you want - and what your embassy allows,  getting into the UK and particularly the US now means alot of delays/red tape - the girl has to produce all sorts of info, family background, parents birth cetificates etc, - you have to produce bank statements that show you can support, or have a job for her - in short, it can be done, and Thais from all levels of the community would be interested, but you need plenty of patience - e.g. current wait time to get a Thai girlfriend a Visa to go to the US or UK to marry you, is about 6 months.


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Posted on: 12:14 am on June 8, 2002
PussyLover 69
Hey, I don't like what I am reading here ! You mean to say that in this modern day and age we can still use money to buy girls ? Sounds like 'white slavery' to me. I thought slavery was abolished by President Abraham Lincoln more than 100 years ago.

If you are thinking of employing a Thai maid and bringing her back to your home-country to work for you that is a different story.

I have read that a lot of people abuse the system. On the surface they seem to be legitimately employing a Thai maid but what may happen is that this Thai maid end up as a 'sex slave' to serve the master who employed her in the first place.


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Posted on: 11:16 am on June 10, 2002
ABC
PussyLover 69:
I agree with your comments. Sounds like slavery to me. And sending money back to the family and stuff, isj ust icing on a stale cake.
Taking a female away from her family and into a new environment not because she loves a person, but because she was paid for is not a health opportunity for her.

the new guy:
Putting the morality issue asside for a moment, it can take as long as 2 years to bring a female into the U.S. A friends ask about bringing his gf into the U.S and the embassy had all sorts of conditions that must be met before she can enter into the U.S. We even went to an attorney to try and speed things up. The quickest we were told  was about 1 year. And this is after they were married. They would not allow her in the U.S to live unless they were married first.
The only way you might be  able to speed things up is to pay large sums of money. What that amount is I do not know.


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Posted on: 1:32 pm on June 11, 2002
casey
I think slavery is when a person is not allowed to leave the employment or family.  Just to bring someone into the country as a maid or cook or whatever is done all the time.  My first wife originally came to the US as a person doing child care.  If someone is willing to leave the LOS for a job in another country how do you call that slavery?


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Posted on: 11:53 pm on June 12, 2002
ABC
casey:
The key word for me is "bought." I do not think that a person that is bought as a piece of property is free to leave. And, once the person is taken to a foreign country, what is really freedom?? Where can they go??


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Posted on: 12:52 am on June 13, 2002
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New Guy -

What? You want to buy a girl?

I'm sorry.  I know you said you don't want to get into the whole morality thing.  But I have to speak me mind a bit. This will be my only post on the subject.

I'm certainly no prude, and I doubt anyone on this board is.  And though it's not discussed much, even if bar girls like their job, there is still something just a tad seedy about someone having to resort to selling their bod to feed their family, especially to westerners worrying about the difference between 1000 and 1500 baht, or the price of a couple of drinks back home.  Still, bar girls are loaning you their time, for a price, and prespecified and limited time.

But this, this is something entirely different.  You want to BUY someone, a living person, to bring home with you like a piece of luggage?

Sure it's extremely fortunate that we all have the means at our disposal to fly across the globe, to be able to take time off from work, and to partake in all the great things thailand has to offer, but to want to buy someone seems, minimally, insensitive and disrespectful, and downright immoral.  Plus it's just cultural / social / economic arrogance - you wouldn't think of "buying" someone in your own country would you?


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Posted on: 12:23 am on June 14, 2002
casey
would you consider alimony as payment for someone?5555555.


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Posted on: 1:37 am on June 14, 2002
ABC
Geekboy:
I think you are right on the money with your statements!!!

casey:
Sorry, but I have to say it is not the same in my book.  I know we can debate this til the cows come home. Like arranged marriages, people only marrying because of money, but I think that their are big differences.

1. Alimony means they were legally married. This means that when the marriage ends one partner pays the other partners living expenses after the conclusion of set relationship. When a person is bought and is no longer needed, there are no laws to protect that person from just being thrown out with nothing.

2. Even in marriage both parties have equal say and legal rights to terminate set arrangement. I do not think that a "bought or paid for person" has any rights to leave. It's like the mafia paying families for their young females and then making them working the prostitution business. They are bought and paid for. Do you think that the females can leave?? I am not saying that "the new guy" is like that, but I still do not believe that she has any right to leave if she wanted to.

And again back to the morality issue. If a male really wants a female, then why would he have to resort to buying her?? If he wanted her for company and companionship, then he would court her and she would then make up her own mind. Please do not equate courting with paying for someone. Also, it's the parents that sell their children with out their children having any say in it. Which to me is just as pathetic as the people that buy those children.

I guess my whole point is this:
People are not supposed to be bought and sold like cattle. Whether Thai society accepts this or not, I would go so far and to say that morally the rest of us should hold to this practice.

(Edited by ABC at 5:42 am on June 15, 2002)


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Posted on: 2:22 am on June 14, 2002
thaiprivateeye
... sad but true, I would say that WELL over 50 % of marriages in Thailand, are money orientated/related  be it with  a Farang, or Thai - in the so called high class Thai/Chinese community, the percentage probably higher !    T I T -  


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Posted on: 3:23 am on June 14, 2002
     

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