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Ballsburstin, I would agree with that - while the US harbored similar sentiment after 9/11, a lot oof it was brought under control by our awareness that it wasn't the people that voluntarily come to the US to make a living that are out to kill us. Obviously, we had the share of rednecks killing the WRONG people, because they wore a turban :-(
On the other hand, seeing as how Thailand is far less politically correct  , I would agree that officially sanctioned sweeps would happen in all Muslim quarters, and that a lot of popular anger and rage would be unleashed as well. Not that I would blame them for the reaction, but you are right, to a large degree innocent, and nice people will suffer.
This is, more than anything else, what is pissing me off about this kind of thing - not only are these goat-herders hurting innocent people on our end, but they are causing far more harm to their own people. Of course, it's all for Allah, so it's all good...
Oh well, I've decided to be in the North East during APEC heydays, to return to BKK sometimes after the 23rd. Hopefully, I will have the opportunity to meet some of the bros.
Harry
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Posted on: 2:07 am on Sep. 23, 2003
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Hermanolobo
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Thailand 'foiled' attack on El Al
Islamic militants planned to attack an Israeli airliner in Bangkok, the Thai prime minister said on Wednesday.
But the plan was foiled when some of those behind it were arrested, Thaksin Shinawatra said.
"They confessed they aimed to destroy some Israeli planes here," he said.
Mr Thaksin's admission came a day after an Israeli television programme also claimed that Thai police had foiled a plot against Israeli aircraft.
According to the television report, a man was arrested at Bangkok's international airport, while allegedly filming the El Al airline counter.
In a subsequent raid on the man's home, police were said to have found details of a plan to attack Israeli airline passengers.
A senior Thai security official told Reuters news agency that a Malaysian man called Li-Li had confessed to the plot.
He was arrested in August, just a few hours before the capture of Hambali, who is accused of being the operations chief for Jemaah Islamiah (JI) - a group allegedly linked to al-Qaeda and blamed for last year's Bali bombings.
Hambali was arrested in Thailand and is currently in United States custody at an undisclosed location.
Mr Thaksin told reporters that the airport plot had prompted tighter security.
Deputy Prime Minister Chavalit Yongchaiyudh said on Wednesday that security had been further tightened ahead of next month's Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation forum.
US President George Bush and other leading world figures are due to attend the meeting.
Earlier this week Mr Thaksin ordered state officials to reveal as little as possible about Thailand's security plans for the summit, to avoid panic and confusion.
"We don't need to tell the world we will take all trash cans off Bangkok streets or look inside all of them,'' he said.
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Posted on: 1:05 pm on Sep. 24, 2003
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Hermanolobo
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That report was from BBC World.
I think this was probably just a small bunch of fanatics who didn't really know how to go about things.
The real 'psychos' will be more professional than that.
When they have done the dastardly deed Thailand will know they have paid a visit.
These people are nasty, evil, psycho and effective.
They must be a nightmare for security forces as they use unconventional methods that are not expected yet are ultimately very effective.
Simple , effective and evil.
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Posted on: 1:12 pm on Sep. 24, 2003
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Don't underestimate these f_cking killers. Who do they hate the most? Americans and Israelis. There are alot of Americans and even more Israelis in Bangkok. Israeli has very strong and old economic, cultural, military, and intel ties with Thailand. Alot of Israeli hi-tech firms are in Bangkok too, not to mention the many tourists. In the Israeli Defence Force, it is tradition to go to Thailand after active duty service. Not sure what the girls do.
I think the Thai security forces have done an outstanding job. They have been working very closely with the security services of USA, Britain, German, Israeli, Australia, Singapore, and Malaysia.
The Jihadist f_ckers are pretty damn smart, but the Thais just may be one step ahead of them.
NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER underestimate the Thai people in any situation.
I ceratinly do not want to see all my favorite cafes on Soi 3 closed down.
Shalom Chaverim and watch yer backs!!!!
I'm calling my gf tonight and advising her to hang with her sister in Bangsue or home in Buriram.
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Posted on: 4:20 pm on Sep. 24, 2003
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Mr. Kaisersoldaten......."NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER underestimate the Thai people in any situation."
Really good point. Sometimes we forget that for us it is a holiday or expat living situation that we base our comments on. Thais I am sure, will base whatever actions they feel necessary on the fact that the country belongs to them, and so should the balance of life in Thailand be determined by them.
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Posted on: 6:45 pm on Sep. 24, 2003
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kaisersoldaten
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Righto Fastmover. Remember, a terror attack in Bangkok will only be an inconvenience for us in the America, West, Israeli, etc., but for the Thais, it could be their economy and thousands of innocent and very very friendly lives.
This f_cking pisses me off those mother f_ckers killing innocent people so they can rape 72 teenage girls. I have alot of respect for BGs and the struggles they go through. In many ways, I consider them very special. They have provided us with some of the happiest times of our lives and all they are trying to do is survive and help their families...and trying to enjoy their hard lives as much as they can.
I have many people, BGS and others, that work in the Suk area and this really does affect me personally. To think their are these f_cking saracen barbarians out there that want to murder them for just being there pisses me off.
Well folks, this is World War Three and it is only beginning.
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Posted on: 11:56 pm on Sep. 24, 2003
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kaiseroldaten:
I totally agree with you. ŬI hope the Thais thwart whatever those nuts are planning to do. ŬI have faith in the Thais, afterall, they caught Hambali, didn't they?
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Posted on: 2:39 am on Sep. 25, 2003
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hzink
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Quote: from Hermanolobo on 1:12 am on Sep. 25, 2003
I think this was probably just a small bunch of fanatics who didn't really know how to go about things.
Not really.
Quote: from Hermanolobo on 1:12 am on Sep. 25, 2003
The real 'psychos' will be more professional than that.
Not really.
Quote: from Hermanolobo on 1:12 am on Sep. 25, 2003
These people are nasty, evil, psycho and effective.
Not really.
The people you speak of are, for the most part, the equivalent of uneducated sheep-herders, able to follow explicit order in a half-assed fashion. The true brilliance of the masterminds behind operations like 9/11 is not successfully pulling off such a feat, but doing so with a crew of half-wits and morons.
You are giving 'professional' muslim terrorists far too much credit in your message, as these people are neither professional, nor effective.
Yes, stuff gets blown up; yes, the 9/11 attacks were effective - but bear in mind that one of the planes crashed because the passengers revolted. The reason why the operation was successful, is because before 9/11, the standard response to a hijacking was to wait it out.
Furthermore, most of the 9/11 hijackers acted blatantly obvious, got in trouble with the law, and almost got arrested - the only reason why they weren't apprehended was not because they were smart, but because US law enforcemnet management (that would be Ashcroft and FBI 'suits') was incredibly stupid.
This doesn't make them any less dangerous, but the arrest with frightening regularity of additional Al Quaeda factions and cells in Thailand demonstrate two things:
- That Thai security forces do seem to be quite effective.
- That terrorists are still as stupid and incompetent as ever.
Harry
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Posted on: 2:49 am on Sep. 25, 2003
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hzink
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Quote: from kaisersoldaten on 11:56 am on Sep. 25, 2003
Well folks, this is World War Three and it is only beginning.
Unfortunately, you are right, and it's only beginning.
I really we got off our high-horse, and actually started fighting this war like a real one - turning Mecca into one hole in the ground.
Harry
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Posted on: 2:57 am on Sep. 25, 2003
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Hermanolobo
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These are people not motivated by money, political ideology or greed. They have a screwed up spiritual belief(politically manipulated by the mullahs) and are consequentially extremely dangerous. Anybody who straps a bomb to himself and then kills innocents is either completely mad, bent on revenge for personal reasons or doing it because there is a place reserved for him in his version of heaven. The Kamakaze pilots in the Second World War attacked allied shipping because they were at war, and did things out of duty and to their Emperor. There was also a lot of pressure within that system to obey.
The Thais might be brilliant with their intelligence and their policing but when you are fighting an idea, especially a belief system where martyrdom is considered heroic. There is a major problem.
How do you arrest or shoot a belief or an idea?
The motivation is 'inner' and 'spiritual' . This will produce great bravery, cunning and a desire to follow things through.
Although this is not a new phenomenon it has never been so widespread or organised. It profoundly shows the limitations of 'High-Tech' weaponry with which the Americans rely on so much.
Be on your guard. Thailand is a target of psychological importance to them.
1) It clears the 'playground' of the participants.
2) Creates a mind-set in the 'Western mind' = "Where or who next?"
3) It spreads the 'Word' of Islam(There is a 'Trojan Horse' of muslims in Thailand- albeit well behaved and fine citizens) -
Danger here is the similar religion could be poisoned by the fanatics and would effect some believers. A sort of transference of poison into the system.
4) The fanatics are preaching sectarian takeover and as far as I know there is nothing about that in the Koran, which teaches to respect other religions. The book has been twisted by the minds of men. The fanatics have been twisted by the minds of men.
5) It is likely the fanatics will do nothing in Thailand because it is such an obvious target during APEC.
They don't do the obvious.
That is their strength.
Even so be on your guard.
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Posted on: 3:07 am on Sep. 25, 2003
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