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Quote: from stu on 6:38 am on July 24, 2005
to broken leg, with
the type of girls such as your g/f in the photo of your post, I intend to remain one instead of going after the kind u so proudly display on your post site. have a nice day.P.S you should change your handle to broken glasses
She ain't my girlyfriend she's my wife.
BK please ban this person.
Forum rules
11. Insulting a member's spouse
Anyone who insults a member's spouse directly will be banned.
but don't stu over it stu.
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Posted on: 6:44 pm on July 23, 2005
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DaffyDuck
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Quote: from black cats on 5:50 am on July 24, 2005
It will be most satisfying when a governemnt that means business will start executing members of terrorists groups rather than "removing them from the battlefield" like some kind of hockey game.
Who would that be?
The US? No chance of that happening, we're the good guys, remember?
The Saudis? Can't do anything, as the terrorists are Muslim, and thus they may not be harmed under Sharia.
The British? I'm having some decent hopes for these guys, judging by their 'take no prisoners approach' as of late, but I'm sure condemnations of the international community will reign them in.
The French? Too busy surrendering.
The Iraquis? So far, while they seem serious about their own gov't, I haven't seen anything done to arrested terrorists and foreign fighters there. Must be that same "Muslim shall only hug Muslim' crap.
The Israelis? They would, but the US won't let them. I really wish the US would just turn a blind eye to Israel for 6 months.
The Chinese? Hardly. They couldn't care less what happens to us - on the contrary.
Anyone we missed who could make a difference?
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Posted on: 11:55 pm on July 23, 2005
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expatchuck
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Quote: from DaffyDuck on 12:07 pm on July 24, 2005
Quote: from black cats on 5:50 am on July 24, 2005
It will be most satisfying when a governemnt that means business will start executing members of terrorists groups rather than "removing them from the battlefield" like some kind of hockey game.
Who would that be?
The Saudis? Can't do anything, as the terrorists are Muslim, and thus they may not be harmed under Sharia.
The French? Too busy surrendering.
Anyone we missed who could make a difference?
Duffy:
I think you have it about right with the French but you are completely wrong about the Saudis. The government is trying to do away with the Al-Qaeda terrorist organization and is killing them or imprisoning them with impunity. Admittedly they had a long way to go and still do, but at least they are trying.
Until they root out the Mutawahs that are following the Wahabism line of thinking, there will always be problems but they know what the problems are and I believe they are striving to solve them.
I refer you to the following link:
http://www.csis.org/features/050408_SaudiCT.pdf
There are many sources to get the reverse opinion to the link above but it seemed to me to be a balanced presentation on what is going on over there. The Center for Strategic & International Studies is a highly regarded "think-tank" located in DC.
I have seen many of these problems in Saudi Arabia first hand so I feel I know of what I speak.
Edit in: Your comment about Shariah Law is also incorrect. I have seen many a Muslim executed because they did something against Shariah Law or the Koran. They do cut a Muslim a little more slack but they still do away with them on a regular basis.
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Posted on: 12:27 am on July 24, 2005
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DaffyDuck
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Quote: from expatchuck on 12:39 pm on July 24, 2005
I think you have it about right with the French but you are completely wrong about the Saudis. The government is trying to do away with the Al-Qaeda terrorist organization and is killing them or imprisoning them with impunity. Admittedly they had a long way to go and still do, but at least they are trying.
I stand corrected -- but do note that it took the Saudis a terribly long time to spring into ANY sort of actions, and as it stands now (while I give you that they are doing something), what do you attribute their relative 'slowness'? Incompetence, typical for that region, or deliberate dragging of the feet?
Mind you, as I already pointed out, it is in the House of Saud's best interest to root out Al Quaeda, yet progress appears to be slow, for a region that has historically low regard for civil rights.
Thanks for your correction.
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Posted on: 3:28 am on July 24, 2005
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Broken Leg
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Quote: from DaffyDuck on 12:07 pm on July 24, 2005
Quote: from black cats on 5:50 am on July 24, 2005
It will be most satisfying when a governemnt that means business will start executing members of terrorists groups rather than "removing them from the battlefield" like some kind of hockey game.
Who would that be?
The US? No chance of that happening, we're the good guys, remember?
The Saudis? Can't do anything, as the terrorists are Muslim, and thus they may not be harmed under Sharia.
The British? I'm having some decent hopes for these guys, judging by their 'take no prisoners approach' as of late, but I'm sure condemnations of the international community will reign them in.
The French? Too busy surrendering.
The Iraquis? So far, while they seem serious about their own gov't, I haven't seen anything done to arrested terrorists and foreign fighters there. Must be that same "Muslim shall only hug Muslim' crap.
The Israelis? They would, but the US won't let them. I really wish the US would just turn a blind eye to Israel for 6 months.
The Chinese? Hardly. They couldn't care less what happens to us - on the contrary.
Anyone we missed who could make a difference?
careful with some of your generalisations there daffy, the French have been far more succesful at combating Islamic extrmism in their own country than the british. In fact britain became a European haven for islamic militants and extremeists. The press certainly currently like the phrase "Londonistan" Even post the London bombs the French appear to have been more definitive in their reaction.
And all we've seen so far of a take no prsioners attutde now in the UK is the shooting of a Brazillian completely unconnected with the attacks.
As for the Irais and Muslim on muslim. Well yes it is. The insurgency there is not primarily aimed at the coalition it is the sunni natioinalists trying to kill the shi'ai. The idea that the governement is not interested in terroist threat there is a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation there.
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Posted on: 5:03 am on July 24, 2005
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Not quite sure about France surrendering to islamists. Remember an interview on french radio after the london bombings -I forgot from who. The guy claimed that a significant reason France was so far spared of much islamic terrorist activity was because of its strong stance against islamics. He said
"If you're a radical islamist looking at the map of Europe, well, you'll tend not to chose France at your country of residence"
Then the veil ban in public school move was a pretty agressive one as well - and a rather illogical move especially if you consider that even in laic french schools, catholic church has openly a foot inside through his "aumoneries".
Besides anti muslim and especially anti north african resentment in France is very strong in all layers of french society I know of, despite rather negative opinions -in only some layers- towards American and Israel policies.
Besides I'd second Daffy in that letting Israel free hands would help clean up a significant part of the board as this country anyway can hardly inspire more hatred from most moslems around the world. Wondering BTW how they're viewed by moslem countries they actually hold rather friendly relations with, like Turkey and Morocco??
Not so sure about the US, they might well be already doing extra judicial killings if not in much need of intelligence gathering. It seems they took a heavy hand approach on the topic, bringing in positive results but as well a worrying number of new jihadists so altogether a difficult issue to handle
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Posted on: 5:26 am on July 24, 2005
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expatchuck
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Quote: from DaffyDuck on 3:40 pm on July 24, 2005
I stand corrected -- but do note that it took the Saudis a terribly long time to spring into ANY sort of actions, and as it stands now (while I give you that they are doing something), what do you attribute their relative 'slowness'? Incompetence, typical for that region, or deliberate dragging of the feet?
Mind you, as I already pointed out, it is in the House of Saud's best interest to root out Al Quaeda, yet progress appears to be slow, for a region that has historically low regard for civil rights.
Thanks for your correction.
The Saudi's were slow off the mark for several reasons. The primary reason being the Saudi attitude of "Inshallah" and the overwhelming thought that it (terrorist bombs) could never happen there. They really felt insulated and felt that nothing would occur to cause them any problems.
The real wake-up call was when the terrorists bombed the compounds in Riyadh on May 11, 2003. It suddenly became apparent to all that there were not going to be any bystanders in this little battle. The Saudi government became very proactive at this time in trying to stop the threat.
The compound I was living in had one (1) armed military policeman on 5/11. After an incident to one of my employees, we were then provided two humvees (with.50 calibers), two sandbagged positions (with.50 calibers), two separate checkpoints with generally 5-10 Saudi Marines all armed with automatic weapons. The Saudi government is serious about protecting the foreigners living and working there but shit happens and it doesn't always work properly.
You can't keep out a determined suicide bomber forever. Your defensive forces have to be correct each and every time.....the bomber only has to get it right once.
These are merely my thoughts and observations from many years of watching events occur.
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Posted on: 6:42 am on July 24, 2005
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Brocher
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Quote: from black cats on 10:50 am on July 24, 2005
Quote: from DaffyDuck on 7:50 am on July 23, 2005
It's the Religion Of Peace (ROP™) again, right?
Why'd they pick that particular place?
Oh, yeah "Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas met there in February and agreed to a cease-fire."
Peace, right!
I think you hit the nail on the head. These losers are committed to punishing the local people of any place that furthers middle east peace. They do select specific places for specific reasons to send their perverted message.
It will be most satisfying when a governemnt that means business will start executing members of terrorists groups rather than "removing them from the battlefield" like some kind of hockey game.
Being perverted these nasty people may see their execution as an aid to martyrdom and so be used to "encourage" others to follow.
Spending their holidays in resorts like Guantanamo Bay might lead others to think twice though.
The conspiracy theorists might say that OBL was keepin' away from Saudi because the Saudis were payin' him off!
You might not have heard/read but there are stories most weeks in the local papers tellin' of another terrorist shot or captured so the Saudis are cleanin' up as fast as possible. However, last week we were told to expect another wave of attacks here due to the authorities findin' a large cache of bombs!
So are they gettin' rid of them or are they increasin' their numbers? Either way it's probably a good opportunity for the authorities to get rid of "anybody" they don't like, terrorist or not!
Cheerio
PS: Gota be careful with the execution thingy, London Police have made a coupla mistakes recently!
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Posted on: 7:36 am on July 24, 2005
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black cats
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I'm honored to be quoted multiple times. Yes who
indeed will pull out the stops and execute radical
Islamists?
I was surprised almost to hear about the French taking a hard line. Everyone calls them non fighters for their surrender to the Germans in WWII. But my impresion of them is that for better or worse they are committed to controlling their own destiny and will do appalling things to keep France French.
And why not? They have the nukes to back up themselves up. The world knows this and therefore hates them for not submitting to outside influence.
I think killing the extreme but not so brave Islamic fundamentalists, the people who equip, train and deploy suicide bombers might have an impact. The behind the scenes types are not so willing to die for Islam, but play a critical role in making suicide attacks possible. If being associated with such a group spelled death for you, while being a peaceful muslim meant you were tolerated, you might choose the path of least resistance as a young muslim. Or one could hope so.
Certainly a hard line approach will create more resentment and escalated violence at first, but that resentment and violence already exists with the"we'll defeat terrorism by parcelling out democracy" approach and what return has anyone seen in terms of safety and security? I think it's gone down because the extremists see that their serve is far stronger than the return.
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Posted on: 11:20 am on July 24, 2005
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There is, of course, something else the west could do to reduce tensions in the area.
They could leave.
Yes, that's right. They could leave Iraq, leave Saudi Arabia, leave Afghanistan. They could let the local people control their own destinies, even if that meant the local people f***ed things up for themselves. It's called self-determination, choosing one's own destiny and taking responsibility for one's self.
I know that's a difficult concept for the muslim-hating masses to understand, but it's something the west has enjoyed for a long time, but that we don't seem to think our darker skin brothers are capable of.
Israel wants to create a jewish homeland in the heart of arab territory? Sure thing guys..good luck, but you're on your own.
PS. what does this thread have to do with Thailand?
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Posted on: 9:47 pm on July 24, 2005
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