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koolbreez
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In keeping with royalty, and what will transpire when the King passes, a few months is far from the reality of the time period it will take to finish the cremation, and internment of the King.
The princess of King Rama VI passed away last July, and was just cremated, and layed to rest two weeks ago. The biggest delay was in the building of her crematorium at Sanam Luang park at a cost of $1.2millionUS.
His majesty's preparations will surely take longer with his popularity, and reverence. In all likelyhood lasting a full year, or longer just in the preperations of his crematorium. It will be lavish in fitting with his status. It is hard to imagine how much more elaborate than the princess's it will be, but there isn't anything in modern Thai times that will compare with it, and very little in the rest of the world that will compare.
During this time, and until his majesty is entombed the prince will take charge of the monarchy. Thaksin would be a fool to try any move on the monarchy during this time period. After the King is entombed then Thaksin will make his move if he is still alive. He does have prostate cancer, and whether it is in remission is not known, or whether it was all surgically removed.
A friend two years ago made all the logistical arrangements in transporting a surgical team to Dubai to treat him for prostate cancer. This was never made completely public, and Thaksin denies it, but he was treated for prostate cancer, and made no public appearances for 8 1/2 months.
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Posted on: 5:25 am on April 22, 2012
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dirty guru
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He is the king.
That is important to keep in mind.
Long live the king!
But when he passes it is not the same..
The outpouring will be intense and universal.......
People need to have that focus....
I feel he is a great King and grieving Thais would see a very very huge funeral within weeks.
The whole world...every soul who has known of this king will be deeply saddened...
The Thais for ever will speak of him.
Westerners will bow also in respect when he is departed
I fear for Thailand without him.
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Posted on: 6:02 am on April 22, 2012
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magnum
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Quote: from koolbreez on 5:25 pm on April 22, 2012
The princess of King Rama VI passed away last July, and was just cremated, and layed to rest two weeks ago...
His majesty's preparations will surely take longer with his popularity, and reverence. In all likelyhood lasting a full year, or longer just in the preperations of his crematorium...
During this time, and until his majesty is entombed the prince will take charge of the monarchy. Thaksin would be a fool to try any move on the monarchy during this time period. After the King is entombed then Thaksin will make his move if he is still alive.
... a well-placed Thai friend, a royalist, mentioned to me a 3-year mourning period... as you point out, Toxin would do nothing during that period... and who is going to critisize if the royals announce a protracted mourning period, which would give the new monarch time to try securing his position?
... that Toxin might need to do nothing is also possible... a huge percentage of Thais have well-developed views about the future of constitutional monarchy.
... I feel as though this will be as peering back into the 18th Century French Revolution when this all comes down... many of the same conditions that existed there and then, are present here and now.
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Posted on: 6:27 am on April 22, 2012
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dirty guru
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Kings are mourned for decades Magnum.
But protocol (with world watching) decrees a very national and international event of such an important status to be laid to rest within I expect 21 days
The other activities will indeed be a much longer period.
But Thailand will not ignore the eyes of the world on the passing of their king.
It will be the greatest funeral the world will ever witness in sheer love and size and mourning.
Kings don't get put on hold these days
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Posted on: 6:37 am on April 22, 2012
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magnum
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Quote: from dirty guru on 6:37 pm on April 22, 2012
But protocol (with world watching) decrees a very national and international event of such an important status to be laid to rest within I expect 21 days
... as I've understood the protocols, the amount of money that is spent, the number of monks who say prayers, and the period of mourning are directly proportional to the regard in which the deceased is held... I've attended several 100th day cremations, all muckety-mucks.
... the Queen Mother and the princess who was just cremated are relatively recent examples of serious royal juice.
... I am also told, weeks and months might pass before his death is announced, as with his mother who was dead for months before being announced... a Thai explained that with a death of her importance, 'things needed to be arranged' before making the news public... I understood this had to do with the royal court... I suppose inheritance, shuffling of plum royal privileges, titles... stuff unlikely to complicate my uncerimonious death.
... I am betting on longer mourning, not shorter, and especially with what is at stake during that time... 'the game of thrones', Voranai called it... USD 35-40 billion.
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Posted on: 7:15 am on April 22, 2012
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dirty guru
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Please clarify...mourning or funeral?
Where as I have nil arguement on everything you have said, I wish to make one distinction.
He is a king.
I believe the mourning will indeed be long.
But as long reining monarch in the world...his death will trigger an expectation.
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Posted on: 7:44 am on April 22, 2012
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koolbreez
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The actual cremation, and internment will take only one day. To get to that point will take at least one full year from the time he dies, at the very least.
As Magnum states the official time of mourning is 3 years, and this could also be the time taken before his cremation. It all depends on how long it takes to build his crematorium. That will not be started before he dies.
Mourning time has nothing to do with how long before he is cremated, and interred. That is dependent on how long it takes to design, and build his crematorium. None of it is started before he passes, or it would be viewed as bad luck.
21 days has nothing to do with royal deaths. That is only lay people before the body starts to smell real bad. The princess died in July of last year, but was not cremated until the 9th of April 9 months later when her crematorium was deemed completed.
She was given highest honors for royalty by the King with 7 tiers on the canopy over her crypt instead of just 5. This wasn't bestowed on her until last March by His Magesty.
The King's crypt will have 9 tiers on the canopy signifying a King being there. That is also how you can tell a King is somewhere by the number of tiers on the canopy over the building. Only a King is allowed to be under a 9 tiered canopy. For any other royalty 7 is the max.
It wasn't heavily publicised, only if you watched the live TV coverage, and listened to the anouncement of who was paying respect at that moment for the 3 hours it took for them all to pay official respect. There was royalty from all over the world here the day the princess was cremated on the 9th of April. The King, and Queen of Thailand made two official appearances there together that day. The last one was for him to light the pyre to cremate her that night.
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Posted on: 8:46 am on April 22, 2012
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magnum
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Quote: from dirty guru on 6:36 am on April 29, 2012
... not much more in this week's offering than that Voranai views the appearance of the start of a reconciliation (PM Hottie kowtowing to the Crown Privy Council's President Gen. Prem, who they allege endorsed the coup d'etat overthrowing Toxin) is only that.... appearance... he cites evidence (relatively direct words by Gen. Prem) to the contrary.
... the deep social divide between the Reds' poor constituency and the elite royalists appears greater than the conventional Buddhist 'middle way' that has worked here can bridge.
... in the absence of a reliable rule of law, the informal community justice system relying upon the Buddhist principal of compromise (the 'middle way') has historicly worked remarkably well... of course, the compromise always favoring the elites.
... the social revolution now driving Thai politics has changed that calculus... the poor Thai prai apparently no longer buy it.
... the additional news is the rank and file Red leadership's threat to abandon the Pheu Thai if they do compromise with the royalists, claiming it is one group of elitists compromising with another group of elitists at the expense of the poor prai... Thai business as usual.
... the rank and file prai seem to have a confident voice... Toxin seems to have given the long disenfranchised prai fire... the question is, will they now burn the place down... the Arab Spring comes to mind... the French Revolution? the Chinese Cultural Revolution? maybe something a bit less ugly, as South Africa? or, maybe something less ugly still, as with their cultural cousins Myanmar.
... I guess the key is the primer under this powder keg... Toxin... he has just the opposite affect of the ameliorating influences and noble goals of Aung San Suu Kyi and Nelson Mandela... Nobel Laureate material, Toxin is NOT!
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Posted on: 9:12 pm on April 29, 2012
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