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thaiaficionado
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The PM should realize that politics is all about criticism. Just what's he so ticked-off about? Didn't the King express the same sentiments that are in this report? Sure, bag the editor of the BKK Post. Some troubling signs here. Get with the program, Thaksin.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 8:36 pm on Feb. 27, 2004
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aeroman
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Just read that today!
Thai losing face? We can't make them look bad. T-man has some issues he needs to deal with, he should not just shoot from the hip all the time. He needs to work on thinking before he speaks!
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:48 pm on Feb. 27, 2004
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hzink
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This certainly should come as any kind of surprise, as it is historically better to NOT be allied with the US, then to be 'friends' with the US -- as the US will invariably stab you in the back, when it fits their pocketbook, or their PR needs.
I find it particularly amusing to see the US criticising the human rights situation in other countries - considering that they embrace China (a fascist regime, engaging in a plethora of human rights violations against their own people), and actively alienating Taiwan (a democratic regime, for closer in keeping with the ideals the US should be supporting). Of course, China is waving with the illusion of big business, and the US (well, Bush) immediately heels to it's Chinese masters.
Woof, Woof!
Regarding Thailand, if last year's 'war on drugs' is the only thing the state dept. is basing their footnote on, they might also want to check how successful that drug-war was -- and, more than anything else, that they wouldn't hav Hambali if not for the Thai security forces.
Yep, the US sure was happy to get Hambali, so as a big 'Thank You', they now sh_t on their 'friends' -- as usual. And then they wonder why people hate them.
Seriously, these are the kinds of situations where I feel embarassed to call this country my home. The country is great, don't get me wrong, but the folks running it are morons. Then again, this is no different than most alrge US corporations in the industry I work in (enjoying the Eisner soap opera, right now).
'nuff said.
Harry
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 9:56 pm on Feb. 27, 2004
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Mr Alan
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The US, and the Bush administration in particular, has frequently criticized the Chinese regarding human rights, much more than Thailand. Any claims to the contrary are completely absurd. BTW, the Chinese are Marxists, not Fascists.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 10:02 pm on Feb. 27, 2004
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Mr Alan
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Here is the lastest information on the US criticsim of Chinese human rights:
http://www.reuters.com/locales/
U.S. moves on China rights resolution despite anger
By Saul Hudson
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States criticized China on Wednesday for "backsliding" on human rights and said it was inclined to seek a U.N. resolution on its practices, despite Beijing's warning that could affect warming ties.
In its annual report on human rights around the world, the State Department accused China of such abuses as extrajudicial killings and torture and said authorities were "quick to suppress" religious and political groups opposed to the government.
"We began 2003 with hopes that the incremental but unprecedented progress in China seen in 2002 would be continued and expanded. However, throughout the year, we saw backsliding on key human rights issues," the report said of China.
The criticism was sure to cause friction with China coming on the same day the communist nation hosted six-way talks on North Korea's nuclear programs in what has been considered a sign of closer U.S.-Sino cooperation.
The report also risked angering the reclusive communist state of North Korea, which despite its ideological differences and fears of a U.S. attack has agreed to the talks aimed at dismantling its suspected nuclear weapons program.
"Reports from North Korea continue to paint a bleak picture of one of the world's most inhumane regimes.... Basic freedoms are unheard of," the State Department said, detailing allegations of abuse such as torture, forced abortions and infanticide in prison camps.
While the U.S. report is welcomed for highlighting abuses around the world, many rights groups accuse the United States of hypocrisy because of its own criticized record on issues such as the death penalty and its treatment of detainees in its war on terrorism.
THINK THRICE
This month, China told the United States to "think three times" about introducing a critical resolution at this year's session of the Geneva-based U.N. Human Rights Commission, but the U.S. diplomat overseeing Wednesday's report was not moved.
Asked if Washington would seek such a resolution, Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor Lorne Craner told reporters, "We are heading in that direction."
The United States also touched on another sensitive Chinese issue, criticizing the Beijing-backed government in Hong Kong for failing to announce a timetable for public consultations on moving toward full democracy.
Ties between the United States and China, often strained by disagreement over issues such as human rights, trade and Taiwan, have improved in recent years.
The top U.N. human rights watchdog, the 53-member commission in Geneva, begins its annual six-week session on March 16. Censure by the commission brings no penalties but spotlights a country's behavior.
The United States did not sponsor a resolution against China last year because Beijing had undertaken considerable reforms and was willing to let U.N. and American rights investigators enter the country.
U.S. officials say few promises have materialized and, even if such a resolution failed, the United States considers it important to air the grievances.
London-based human rights monitoring group Amnesty International has said hundreds of thousands of people are detained in China in violation of basic human rights.
China, the world's most populous country, insists fundamental human rights mean that feeding, clothing and housing its 1.3 billion people come first and individual rights take a back seat to the welfare of society.
26 Feb 2004
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:05 pm on Feb. 27, 2004
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aeroman
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OT.
Bush is an ass!
This administration, doesn't know whether to siht or fcuk. They are trying to please all of the morally rightguess while pulling a rabbit outta the ole keister every once in a while to pacify the restless masses. We are bogged down in one hell of a morass of futility! I hate the US now. Luckily there is little chance of a military takeover, and martial law being declared! unless?????????????????
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:07 pm on Feb. 27, 2004
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Arcadius
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The annual State Department report tries to be an objective assessment of human rights abuses around the world. It is unrelated to the foreign policy manoeuverings of the Bush (or any other) administration. Obviously, like any other great power that ever was, the US has to deal with regimes whose internal politics are less than pristine.
Thaksin has no choice to but to throw a public tantrum - so a formal complaint to the US Govt is pretty much par for the diplomatic course. Insofar as his own comments are OTT, then yeah - face factors are no doubt involved (it's a sensitive enough internal issue and coping with direct criticism isn't exactly a Thai forte). But look at the sort of abuse Mahathir of Malaysia used to heap on Western govts every other week. I think this will all be water off a duck's back.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:09 am on Feb. 28, 2004
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Basil Bush
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Quote: from aeroman on 4:07 am on Feb. 28, 2004
OT.
Bush is an ass!
I hope you are not referring to me… 
I presume you mean cousin G W, if so I’ll second that!!! 
BB
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 1:36 am on Feb. 28, 2004
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hzink
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Quote: from Mr Alan on 11:02 am on Feb. 28, 2004
The US, and the Bush administration in particular, has frequently criticized the Chinese regarding human rights, much more than Thailand. Any claims to the contrary are completely absurd. BTW, the Chinese are Marxists, not Fascists.
Didn't change the Bush administration from hugging them and singing Kumbaya, as long as there's a fat hope of money at the end of that stick.
Personally, the way I see it, if a gov't is counter to your own ideologies, and continues human rights violations, you don't do business with them, and don't continue giving them money they then use to make you look like an ass.
We have embargoed Cuba for much less (and said embargo, still being maintained, is still as stupid), yet we might as well keep shipping huge $$$ barges to China.
Harry
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:13 am on Feb. 28, 2004
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