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sanook269
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1st, There is a Boeing 747-400F, BUT the "F" stands for Freighter. There is no current model 747-400"F" used as a passenger aircraft.
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2000/news_release_000707a.html
Older 747-400s are currently being refurbished with the new interiors. I was just on one, China Air, a couple of weeks ago.
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/modifications/747_interiors.html
Sometime soon Boeing will announce whether or not they will build what they are calling the "747 Advanced," a slightly stretched 747-400 using the technology Boeing has developed for their new 787/7E7:
http://www.boeing.com/randy/archives/2005/06/timing.html
Boeing announce this last January they will stop production of the 717:
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q1/nr_050114a.html
Torq:
Here you go:
http://www.airsafe.com/events/airlines/taiwan.htm
"Fatal Events Since 1970 for China Airlines
The following events are those involving at least one passenger death where the aircraft flight had a direct or indirect role. Excluded would be events where the only passengers killed were stowaways, hijackers, or saboteurs.
1. 12 August 1970; China Airlines YS11; Taipei, Taiwan: The aircraft was on approach under conditions of heavy rain and low clouds when it struck a low ridge about 660 feet (200 meters) about one half mile (800 meters) from the runway. Two of the five crew members and 12 of the 26 passengers were killed.
2. 21 November 1971; China Airlines Caravelle; near Penghu Islands, Formosa Strait between Taiwan and the PRC: The aircraft was believed to have been destroyed by an inflight explosion caused by a bomb. All 17 passengers and eight crew members were killed.
3. 27 February 1980; China Airlines 707-300; Manila, Philippines: The crew executed a steep and unstabilized approach, touching down hard short of the runway and bouncing, eventually stopping on the runway after having the two outboard engines and parts of wing departing the aircraft. Two of the 122 passengers were killed.
4. 16 August 1982; China Airlines 747; near Hong Kong: The aircraft encountered severe inflight turbulence. Two of the 292 passengers were killed.
5. 16 February 1986; China Airlines 737-200; Pescadores Islands, Taiwan: The aircraft touched down on the runway but crashed during an attempted go around. All six passengers and seven crew members were killed.
6. 26 October 1989; China Airlines 737-200; near Hualien, Taiwan: The crew was using an incorrect departure procedure and hit cloud shrouded high ground at 7000 feet (2130 meters). All seven crew members and 49 passengers were killed.
7. 26 April 1994; China Airlines A300-600; Nagoya, Japan: Crew errors led to the aircraft stalling and crashing during approach. All 15 crew and 249 of the 264 passengers were killed.
8. 16 February 1998; China Airlines A300-600; near Taipei, Taiwan: The aircraft crashed into a residential area short of the runway during its second landing attempt. The scheduled flight had been inbound from the island of Bali in Indonesia. The event occurred under conditions of darkness with rain and reduced visibility due to fog. All 15 crew and 182 passengers were killed. At least seven persons on the ground were also killed.
9. 22 August 1999; China Airlines MD11; Hong Kong, China: The aircraft was landing in Hong Kong at night and during a storm after a flight from Bangkok. The aircraft struck the runway and came to rest upside down and on fire. All 15 crew members survived, but three of the 300 passengers were killed.
10. 25 May 2002; China Airlines 747-200; near the Penghu Islands, Taiwan: The aircraft experienced an in-flight breakup and crashed into the sea about 20 minutes into a flight from Taipei to Hong Kong while the aircraft was just above 30,000 feet.. The impact area was in the Taiwan Straits near the Penghu Islands about 75 km (47 mi) from the coast of Taiwan. Apparently, there was no distress signal, emergency message, or other indication of any problem sent out prior to the event. Weather and flight conditions were normal, and no distress signal or other communication was received prior to the crash. The 19 crew members and 206 passengers were all killed.
The accident aircraft was the last 747-200 in passenger service with China Airlines and was to be sold to another (Thai Air-sic) carrier next month. According to Boeing, the aircraft was delivered to China Airlines in July 1979 and had accumulated approximately 21,180 landings and 64,394 flight hours. This nearly 22-year old aircraft was newer than similar models in the fleets of U.S. airlines. According to the FAA, the average age of Boeing 747-200 and 747-300 models in U.S. airline fleets is 24 years."
China Air is rated 7.16 and the only other airline in the region to come close is Air India at 4.89
http://www.airsafe.com/events/regions/asia.htm
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Posted on: 4:53 pm on July 14, 2005
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DaffyDuck
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You know, Sanook, I am wondering -- everytime someone, anywhere, brings up China Airlines, you rattle off the same script about how anyone flying on them must surely be taking their life in their own hand.
Why is that?
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Posted on: 5:38 pm on July 14, 2005
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Torq
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I'm a f***ing moron I have been clicking on th ewrong link. Oh well I am stupid...
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Posted on: 5:40 pm on July 14, 2005
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Torq
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You know what is really sucky is that I used to be an aircraft mechanic. Just goes to show how f***ing stupid a person can be.
I mean I checked on another two sites a few years ago, been flying them. Have lots of miles and missed it again today.
My God there record looks grim almost as bad as American Airlines, sheeesh...
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Posted on: 6:17 pm on July 14, 2005
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from Torq on 5:29 pm on July 14, 2005
My God there [their] record looks grim almost as bad as American Airlines, sheeesh...
Of the 13 "events" involving American Airlines resulting in one or more fatalities, 4 of them were actually on American Eagle, which are commuter airlines that operate small planes in several different markets. Another crash was on an Amercian Airlines owned corporate jet. Two other events were the result of the 9/11/2001 terrorist attacks on NYC and Washington. Only 6 of the 13 "events" since 1970 were on large American Airlines jetliners (and not a result of terrorist attacks).
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Posted on: 8:49 pm on July 14, 2005
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sanook269
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Quote: from DaffyDuck on 5:50 am on July 15, 2005
You know, Sanook, I am wondering -- everytime someone, anywhere, brings up China Airlines, you rattle off the same script about how anyone flying on them must surely be taking their life in their own hand.
Why is that?
Their record speaks for itself.
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Posted on: 11:06 pm on July 14, 2005
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Diddler
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As far as aircraft go, my opinion is that newer is generally better. I flew CI many years ago before I was aware of their safety record.
Regards
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Posted on: 11:24 pm on July 14, 2005
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badfishlbc
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CI also upgraded a lot of their 747s with that entertainment system. The games, music, movies make the flights there and back go so much faster!
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Posted on: 12:13 am on July 15, 2005
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Torq
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Quote: from Mr Alan on 9:01 am on July 15, 2005
Quote: from Torq on 5:29 pm on July 14, 2005
My God there [their] record looks grim almost as bad as American Airlines, sheeesh...
Of the 13 "events" involving American Airlines resulting in one or more fatalities, 4 of them were actually on American Eagle, which are commuter airlines that operate small planes in several different markets. Another crash was on an Amercian Airlines owned corporate jet. Two other events were the result of the 9/11/2001 terrorist attacks on NYC and Washington. Only 6 of the 13 "events" since 1970 were on large American Airlines jetliners (and not a result of terrorist attacks).
Okay I did my Mia Culpa to Sanook to be decent but please cut out the dog pile action. In any case you're argument in support of American Airlines is quite faulty. They have a shitty record and they get a score of 10 for sucking so bad in the safety area. In fact it is sooo bad that I think Air India may have a better one but I am not sure. If you disagree with me and think that I'm wrong about their frightening saftey record; quick call Wall Street and I am sure that they will listen to you and pull AA's stock price out of the shitter where it is rolling around with the rest of the turds. American Eagle is part of AA and that's how the Industry, Wall Street and the FAA grade them.
As for CI I still like them and here you go:
http://www.china-airlines.com/en/newsen/newsen000229.htm
I'm not trying to be a dick here, like I said I tipped my hat as I think appropriate. Anyway the last planes I flew on them were brand new and they still have one of the newest fleets and I stand by that assertion as well. 
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Posted on: 11:39 am on July 15, 2005
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StrayGypsy
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AirCanada, ChinaAir, KoreanAir all have lowered priced lately from west USA coast around $800 bills.
Start using http://www.bookingbuddy.com open up all windows also then go directly to the airlines sites. AirCanada did it for me from PDX to BKK RT $850 ish.
Yep prices for jet fuel sucks also so just go for 2 - 3weeks instead of 7-10 days out.
Tough it out bros
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Posted on: 1:28 am on July 17, 2005
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