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dirty guru
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I wanted to address "heart break and often the side affect of excessive drinking"
This I feel is an important consideration to many brothers here- who will be faced with such situations, at the least the former (if not the later also)
Self deception - can lead - to a spiral - and is often the start -
Deception is a very deep feature of life.
Plants and animals do it insects and fishes - even viruses -
We see babies cry once they gain insight to manipulate -
What the octopus gains from hiding itself with a change of colour - so do humans in relationships-
But hiding from the truth or avoiding even considering that "things are not always as they appear-" can in turn be as deadly as not recognising an octopus for a helpless crayfish-
The South east Asian market of woman is sometime a mixture of conflicting emotions - certainly as men it is pleasurable and a delight to experience through the senses-
But falling in love can be a joy or health issue-
Its naive to think a woman of any nationality is always telling you the truth-
But when you mix a culture where woman are gentle and more feminine - and eager to please and poor by our standards - its a potent recipe -
Especially when you get guys who want and need some sort of emotional outlet-
Few of us - are only in it for the sex-
Even the best among our man whore ranks fall occasionally to charms-
And I am not a nay sayer-
many guys have made it over the proverbial rainbow- and at xmas I get Facebook links of photos of their happy family snaps many years on-
There is no black and white -
Some will denounce bar girls - while praising their own Thai partners _ (who never were p4p)
Yet some horrible outcomes of the worst kind- have not always come from cunning ex bar girls- but well educated office girls - or even academics married off-
Money is the key to understanding a lot of what you hear-
Even if their mantra is "i love you not your money" and suddenly dispose of condom use and fees-
Its often a ploy they reserve for the guys they feel might be a "money spinner"
And even the straight internet site girls aim at your country and heart- the dick is the first gateway -
this can be used for you - or against yourself
the main thing is not letting self deception creep in-
Like the Mother who recognises a childs tears to be a ploy-
So the punter must learn that the Thai girl crying at the airport - is also *(in most cases)
Not real
And soon will be humping another man-
But a young hottie crying that you have been sleeping with for nights on end can melt the heart-
Look what I will say is this-
many punters hit the skids after investing their own money time and emotions on woman from Asia - the true is all nations- all woman
But here we will discuss Asian woman-
Many of us have taken it hard- (when it goes bad)
A member last year passed away from the demon drink - a result of a woman who hurt him-
I myself have experienced tough separations then splits with various girlfriends/wives -
the message here is "PLENTY MORE FISH IN THE SEA"
To newbies especially - take heed not to fall in love-
Its easy to do-
Getting back to deception -
Self deception especially-
Consider the likely hood of a 45 kilo girl many years younger than you - in her prime - falling in love with you and saying so-?
If you keep self deception at a conscious level while avoiding it by saying to yourself-
"'this is a poor woman who is using deception to try and create the illusion of love" you can indeed capitalise on it and play along-
Its an on going contradiction, but if you enjoy her company and have mental strength to do this its ok-
Cognitively, it might be hard rendering the charms of a hot play thing your f***ing every which way as a natural power on the brain-
Chemicals get released - promises are made-
The departure and "wait for you"...then miss you "" when you call-
Almost all radar shuts down when the flash backs start - of it being an illusion-
""that was hot" you think -
You might be in a hard ware store faced with some fat bitch shop assistant telling you the "discount on paint is over" while the sign says it aint-
When this little voice is telling you she is wet and on her bed and misses you a lot-
Its another realm another place -
The heart and senses want to be there -
We are human-
I opened this discussion in the hope more senior members can contribute to this health issue-
men suffering heart break and the consequences at times -
when to get out-
warning signs-
Treading carefully-
And above all making sure you deal with break ups in a manner where you get over it without damaging your health-
Thoughts?
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:09 pm on Jan. 2, 2012
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DaffyDuck
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Oh, for a moment there I thought this was a thread about kenneth
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 9:58 pm on Jan. 2, 2012
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cheapcharlie
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Quote: from dirty guru on 1:09 pm on Jan. 3, 2012
Thoughts?
Don't fall in love with a bar girl old enough to be your daughter perhaps ! or drink more alcohol than is good for you!
Not all women are liars or trying to cheat us sometimes we get cynical over the years. But would you give up p4p if you found the right one? Just dont expect to find her in big dogs enjoy it for what it is entertainment and don't think too much.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:47 am on Jan. 3, 2012
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magnum
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... the alcoholism thing?.. entire medical libraries are filled with studies on the subject by guys who know better it's daunting complexity... entire forums aee dedicated to it... I suspect there is little we could add.
... the heartbreak thing?.. (the Thai version)... the core forum members here are collectively probably one of the most authoritative repositories of information on the subject anywhere... moreso than most any library in the world that would document the subject.
... my offer is that Thai-borne heartache is a consequence of Thailand's survivalist culture... probably not as severe as India, or the Gawdless Chinese, for whom the waking thoughts each morning for hundreds of millions is "how am I going to eat today?"
... Thais are perhaps a bit better off... but even their relatively small lower-middle and middle classes are living little better than month-to-month... the far more populous Thai lower classes, such as the P4P segment, probably survive week-to-week.
... so, finding someway, or someone, to assure survival is an over-riding concern in their daily lives... c'mon, look at the creepy farang f***s these girls 'do' to assure their survival through the coming weeks.
... marry for love?.. oh, pul-leaze!... here is a not so uncommon length to which Thai women go to assure their survival.
... Thai woman marries Thai husband #1 and breeds, having baby #1... Thai husband #1 is a worthless lazy f*** (as most are)... Thai husband #1 soon tires of Thai woman and the responsibility of fatherhood, and goes after a younger woman (with whom he can again breed), eventually leaving Thai woman to fend for herself and baby #1.
... Thai woman cannot support herself and baby #1, who Thai husband #1 totally abandons... Thai woman starts looking for husband #2, who she finds is willing to take her, but not Thai husband #1's baby... Thai woman abandons baby #1 to family or orphanage, and marries Thai husband #2... he immediately breeds her, producing baby #2.
... Thai husband #2 soon tires of Thai woman and dumps het for a younger woman, repeating the breeding cycle until the Thai woman is unmarriable (typically age 30).
... (this reminds me of the behavior of lions... the first act of a new male after taking over another male's pride is to kill off all of the cubs, and breed with the females to assure HIS bloodline survives... basic, animal survival.)
... what is left behind is a trail of emotionally damaged children, fatherless and abandoned to be raised by people other than their mothers... the Thai orphanages are filled with them... (but, they are NOT orphans... they are ABANDONED).
... THAT, gentlemen... is just how f***ing desperate a very large percentage of Thai women are to assure their survivals... enough that they will abandon their own children.
... international agencies on the subject project that by 2015, more that 50% of all Thai children will be raised by someone other than either parent.
... marrying a Thai woman is about their survival... the Thai institution of 'marriage' is closer to savage, spear-chucking missing links, than any civilized view of marriage.
... THAT is what is beneath the make-up and pretty print dress and painted finger nails and high heels... they are hunting.
... and THAT is what a very high percentage of farang men are buying into when they marry a Thai woman.
... never, ever, ever... lose sight of that.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 10:57 am on Jan. 3, 2012
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thailife
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Magnum... you said "... marrying a Thai woman is about their survival... the Thai institution of 'marriage' is closer to savage, spear-chucking missing links, than any civilized view of marriage."
You are correct. They are savages, closer to monkeys than human. Take a look at a typical Isaan. Notice the protuding brow, which is neadrathal like. The chimp-like nipples. They are all the same.
Look at them as they stare into nothingness. It's that they are thinking, quite the opposite, theyere is nothing going on in the mind.
Part of this comes from inbreeding. Isaan people marry and have kids with their cousins all the time. And don't forget how many Isaan males f*** their daughters. Yes, they do.
Savages and spear chuckers, yes. And some sweet pussy too.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 11:23 am on Jan. 3, 2012
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DaffyDuck
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Quote: from magnum on 11:57 pm on Jan. 3, 2012
... and THAT is what a very high percentage of farang men are buying into when they marry a Thai woman.
... never, ever, ever... lose sight of that.
Too many do - how often have we read the same sob story of some guy who me "the one" on his first trip (always the first trip) and invariably, several paragraphs in, there's the "... she mentioned her son/daughter is sick..."
STAY AWAY FROM WOMEN WITH CHILDREN. PERIOD.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:00 pm on Jan. 3, 2012
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magnum
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Quote: from thailife on 12:23 am on Jan. 4, 2012
... Thailife... your indictment of Thai cultural values is a bit more harsh than mine, but I do not disagree.
... this is a bit off topic, but supports your anecdotal comments on the Thai practice of inbreeding that still continues... international agencies in the early 1990's identified in Thailand serious deficiencies in average Thai IQ's... (I reported on this extensively here a couple of years ago).
... the national average IQ in Thailand was then 82 (by 2005, that dropped to 81), versus international average of 100 (all adjusted for cultural bias in testing)... approximately 25% of Thais test as retarded, or within 5 points of being retarded (which is defoned by an IQ of <70)... up to approximately 17% of Thais is several locations scored below an IQ of 70 (versus the international average of 1.8%)... nationally, approximately 6.8% of Thais score an IQ <70... retarded.
... much is attributed to nutritional deficiency (insufficient dietary iodine in pregnant mothers, which retards neo-natal brain development), but a measureable cause is also attibuted to damaged genes caused by inbreeding.
... the IQ thing explains a lot to me about Thai behavior that is not explained by cultural differences, education, misunderstandings and language barriers.
... now, finding yourself married to an inbred with a low IQ and fractured genes all over the place is some shit that will cause some serious alcoholism and heartbreak.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:33 pm on Jan. 3, 2012
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oreally
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cheapcharlie,
"Not all women are liars or trying to cheat us sometimes we get cynical over the years. But would you give up p4p if you found the right one ?"
1) Never start a sentence with "And or But".
2) Two spaces after each period, please.
Heh heh... 
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:40 pm on Jan. 3, 2012
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bkkz
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Quote: from DaffyDuck on 1:00 am on Jan. 4, 2012
STAY AWAY FROM WOMEN WITH CHILDREN. PERIOD.
Unless, you have too much money... 
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:48 pm on Jan. 3, 2012
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kenneth
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There I am mentioned again apple boy...are you in love with me or something? Sorry, but I ain't into men, I suggest you look for a tranny down sukhumvit
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:33 pm on Jan. 3, 2012
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