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LiamOZ
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BigDUSA,
I thought my latest regular was an empty vessel, but a gem in every other respect. I used to get compliments about how serene and well behaved she was when we were out, but I really needed some livelier conversation and depth.
On my recent tour, which was my third time with her we spent nearly a week together. One night she wanted to go karaoke so I took her and her sister. We all got a little drunk, sang and had lot's of fun. She finally came out of herself and really talked for a change.
She'd been brought up to be seen and not heard, and thought I wanted this (ie: to sit there like a trophy) - plus she was unsure of whether English was ok.
Then, like an avalanche that night in bed talking so much about everything, and she was interesting too - kept on apologising for talking too much, but I thought it was great - very entertaining.
From that point on decent conversations at dinner and talking with my friends, initiating conversations at the apartment with me during the day rather than waiting for me to speak.
Now that she's turned out to be a pretty good package all round, I miss her when I leave - I have to look out for that!
Cheers boys,
Liam
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:58 pm on Mar. 30, 2005
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waxhead
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Well, for me it was a toss up to stay in a western country, go to another western country or come here.
The positives
- food (I really dislike bland western food, sorry) taste
- food prices
- aliveness of city - compared to NZ which is like a village in the middle of nowhere
- lack of complainers everywhere (well, expect expat boards like this one, but from time to time I do need to remember why I left!)
- fun nature of the workplace; dedication of staff
- respect shown to others
- women (obviously, although not a priority)
- ability to be an entreprenuer here - far more chances to get rich for someone who wants to here than in say NZ or some other developed countries - but it takes some skills to work here that maybe you would not need in other countries
- cost of living and especially housing, clothing, cost to go out and get around
- sports: muay Thai and windsurfing are better in Thailand than most places in the world - nice weather and winds for sailing
- ability of an outsider (born and raised overseas) to mix in circles not possible in NZ e.g. in NZ I've met few politicians, CEOs, TV stars, models, high society, critics, celebrities - yet here being an outsider makes it easily possible to meet many of them
- the variety and (often) niceness of many other non-Thais who have chosen to come here to work and discover this country as well
- variety in music entertainment I like - Maynard Ferguson, DJ SS, Destiny Child private concert.... all in 1 year - how can you go wrong?
- availibility of DVDs, movies, music at ultra cheap prices
The negatives
- culture is different; cannot use western "buttons" to make people do things (there are buttons but they are a different set)
- traffic
- heat & humidity
- people's lack of belief in themselves; so willing to put up with their lot for harmony - I LOVE the American way; not putting up with any crap and do what they believe in - often at the wrong times and for the wrong reasons - but that is what gets things done and fixes big problems (of which Thailand has its share)
- seeing poverty and misery, and associated with this the massive scale of p4p here (depressing)
- the open doors policy which leads to so many tossers ending up here (boiler room guys, Russian gangsters, convicts, paedophiles, etc etc) = depressing
- the degree of materialism here
- lack of planning and coordination in the way Thailand is developing; meaning a lot of these things are not going to improve (depressing)
- hard to find true friendship; in Thailand so much is important is what is on the surface; sometimes hard to dig below that
- lack of sports in the city - some but not as many as places like LA, Sydney, Auckland
- no snow
All that said, I would not have said it is hard to find good conversation - most of the Thai people I know won't shut up with their opinions about most stuff in Thai; just won't express to the same degree in english. There are plenty of educated ppl here; just you cannot expect to discuss the benefits of say a floating currency in China with a BG  But this is not a positive or negative....just I think it depends who you mix with.
So... for me all up here is all good aiiight..
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 11:01 pm on Mar. 30, 2005
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LiamOZ
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Waxhead,
Have experienced some of the positives and can understand those that only living here could delver.
As far as the negatives go, I guess that is also a factor of living here.
I quite like the heat, although because I like to walk (girls think I'm crazy) rather than taxi it does get to me. Sweaty & tired I don't need. Nobody could enjoy the ****ing traffic!
Fortunately I haven't met that many of the tosser shits you described in LOS yet - hope I stay lucky.
Dislike yet understand the materialism, but it does make for very 'cut & dried' deal making once agendae are known.
The poverty and misery you mention is so obvious in rich Thai vs poor Thai, and although this depresses me too, the Thai seem to live with it ok The scale of P4P is only depressing to me because it is the only way to escape poverty for many. Yet I know one TBG who retired to a nice house she bought up country, and another that has one nearly built - we shouldn't underestimate them!
True friendship is hard to find anywhere, particularly as we get older. I think that's something that just happens. The Thais with whom I've developed friendships surprised me in that they just seemed to suddenly drop a sort of 'self protection' one day and open up - takes me by surprise, I guess like passing a test or something? Maybe it's the buttons you talk about.
Lack of snow would certainly get to me if I were living there, but I would need a reason to come home occasionally.
For the moment I will live vicariously through those that go before me!
Jeez I go on......
Cheers,
Liam
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 1:25 am on Mar. 31, 2005
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