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The piece on Stickman, as quoted by BL, sounds nice...
But try to imagine this (it happened to me before) :
You go with the 3 time VOA
Then you apply for the 60+30 day TR
Again 3 times VOA
Apply again for 60+30 TR............ hmm, after given a number of tourist visa they will tell you that you're unlikely a tourist after 270 days and refuse another TR visa...
Then you get stuck at the border, no TR and no VOA...
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Posted on: 2:38 am on Sep. 15, 2006
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DaffyDuck
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Quote: from DrLove on 3:46 pm on Sep. 15, 2006
But try to imagine this (it happened to me before) :
How did you get out of this predicament?
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Posted on: 4:25 am on Sep. 15, 2006
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ThaidUp
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Quote: from DaffyDuck on 5:43 pm on Sep. 15, 2006
How did you get out of this predicament?
Opened a sex tour business and got a B1 VISA and work permit.
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Posted on: 6:05 am on Sep. 16, 2006
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DrLove
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Had to buy five tour busses though.
Actually, the scenario didn't happen to me before... only the TR was refused. After a talk with the consulate they gave me another one. Then I started to do the runs...
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Posted on: 9:00 am on Sep. 16, 2006
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Buai
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Quote: from DrLove on 10:18 pm on Sep. 16, 2006
Then I started to do the runs...
Yeah, it would give me the shits too.
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Posted on: 9:29 pm on Sep. 17, 2006
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Loose Cannon
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This might help some of you.
On Saturday night Sabah Cafe & Cinema had a semi-formal visit from Immigration Police Major Suppachai Paladech, Inspector of the Immigration Detention Centre and Secretary to the Commissioner of Immigration; technically the second in command at Immigration. The intended purpose of the visit was to clear up some rumors and ally fears that many long term 'tourist' are having regarding the implementation of updated immigration regulations on the 1st October 2006.
To avoid confusion and in the interest of clarity, questions and answers were discussed by a few before the process was repeated with an adjudicator and Police Major Suppachai Paladech addressing an audience.
Questions and Answers:
Question: It is obvious that the present border runners will change into visa runners to other countries. What are the Department of Immigrations thoughts on this?
Police Major Suppachai: From October 1st you can travel to the border and re-enter 3 times using the system of waiver of a visa. After that, if you get a single entry tourist visa from abroad you can stay here for 60 days, after that you can get a visa extension for 30 days, so it is already 6 months. Each time you leave the country you can come back with the visa extension again, so the tourist visa intervenes.
Question: So if we buy a tourist visa and extend it for 1 month can we leave buy another tourist visa and back, can we continue to do that? Police Major Suppachai: Yes, you can do that. We don't want some people staying on visa extensions for ever. Some people stay for 10 years. The main thing at the moment is that now people that come to Thailand for 10 years are not getting screened. With the tourist visa the police now have a chance to check the people that are not on the blacklist. That is the main thing of this new law.
Question: When does the new rule effecting 90-day maximum wavered visas come into affect?
Police Major Suppachai: It means that the person who has been staying on visa extensions for years, you can depart. If your visa ends on the 30 September, you leave the country and come back on the 30th September, you still can use that 3 times. There was misinformation on the Internet, it doesn't count by stamps, it counts by days. This is very important, it counts by days not stamps. Yeah counts by days.
Question: This is going to effect the airlines. How is Immigration going to handle this? How does an airline know when a passenger comes to their stamp quota? The airline is responsible for their passenger?
Police Major Suppachai: Your question is a very good question. OK we know that from the first of October it counts from 90 days and the problems will come back. Many people will be stopped at the border, right. So within 90 days we will try to do something. Because we are thinking about the electronic visas. We will use that kind of visa where the airline will have to submit the name of the person to our office before to issue the ticket, similar system to the US. It needs at least 1 year. We don't want people using that kind of system (visa waiver) to stay in our country forever, we have to use the tourist visa to intervene in that system to screen them, to screen the people who are staying in our country.
Question: We have heard that there will be a 3 month visa you can buy here in Bangkok. Is this a new rule, if so when is it in place, is it already in existence, can you explain?
Police Major Suppachai: It is not a new visa, it is a new regulation for foreigners who don't have a visa, but visa extension, it means you can apply for a non immigration type B and O at the Immigration Bureau.
Question: In Thailand right?
Police Major Suppachai: Yes. But it means that you have to have at least 3 weeks, I mean visa. It means when you come in right, you have 4 weeks. In the first week you have to contact immigration, in Bangkok in Suan Phlu and submit the papers that you want to change your visa. You have to have a visa. Before we could change the category of visa from tourist to non-immigrant, but this time we can issue the visa as well.
A summary of points that were discussed in more detail: The reason for the new regulations are twofold:
1. Try to eliminate known foreign criminals from entering Thailand. It is desired by the authorities that those staying longer term in Thailand should be screened through a more thorough computer system available at Embassies, Consulates and Immigration offices. Hence the reasoning of forcing people into applying for longer stays after a maximum of 90 days by obtaining 3 consecutive free 30 day waivers of a visa at entry points. Border crossing checkpoints are currently limited to screening out undesirables on the 'Blacklist' and high profile undesirables.
2. Persuade foreigners that are on the incorrect visas or stamps to correct their paperwork in line with the law. By making the trip to an Embassy, Consulate or Immigration office necessary within 90 days from 1st October 2006, it is hoped that foreigners who are disrespecting Thai law rectify the situation by applying for the correct visa. To aid this, Non immigrant B and O visas will be issued inside Thailand at the Immigration Office in Bangkok. IMPORTANTLY, to apply you have to have at least 3 weeks remaining on your current stamp and obviously the correct paperwork. The visa needed to apply is yet to be clarified.
The Department of Immigration controls borders and The Department of Foreign Affairs controls Consulates and Embassies. There has been no official orders to tighten controls on issuing visas abroad. It is at the discretion of the issuing officer. It is business as usual. There is and never was a guarantee that you would be issued a single, double, etc visa. At borders the 90 day max of 'waivers of a visa' will be enforced once your 90 days FROM 1st October have been utilized within the period of 180 days.
Days in country are counted and NOT number of stamps. There is an issue here with airlines and the Department of Immigration understands this. It is their wish that a system similar to something like the US where passenger list are checked electronically before departure will be installed in the future to eliminate problems. This may take some time.
The Department of Immigration understands that their will be problems with the new regulations and will review as necessary.
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Posted on: 3:13 am on Sep. 19, 2006
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onera
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Days in country are counted and NOT number of stamps.
Does this mean every month I can enter Thailand and stay for one week? That will be 84 days in a year, less than 90 days.
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Posted on: 5:09 pm on Sep. 20, 2006
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DaffyDuck
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Mind you, since most arrival situations are now managed with a very well working computer system, it is VERY easy for the system to figure out if you are in compliance or not, and flag you if you are in non-compliance.
It is for that reason that I doubt the crack down on the VoA will be short-lived, since this isn't an issue of people reverting to their prior behaviors, but simply a computer determining if your visa is good or not.
Then again, this may all change now with the new situation, post-coup, since many of the knee-jerk reactions of TRT MPs are bound to be overturned, or simply ignored.
Heck, opening times of bars and GoGos will be the detrmining factor, right?
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Posted on: 6:10 pm on Sep. 20, 2006
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PussyLover 69
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Report from Bangkok Post dated Monday 23 October 2006 :-
Webcam extension of foreigners' stays okayed
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The Immigration Bureau has launched a new service which allows foreign nationals to request the extension of their stay through an internet web camera.
Surapol Thanakoses, commander of the Bangkok immigration police, said on Saturday the service was introduced to make it more convenient for foreigners, particularly businessmen, to reach the bureau.
Insisting the service would not breach security regulations, he said foreigners would have to identify themselves and answer questions put before them by immigration officers through a web-accessible camera before receiving the extension.
The webcam project, piloted last month, has so far attracted 19 users and encountered no problems. Its official launch took place on Friday.
Pol Maj-Gen Surapol said his bureau is also providing mobile services and sending its officers to renew the work permits of foreign employees if requested by a company.
The new service will help save foreign nationals the hassle of making the trip to the bureau.
But the bureau is only making its mobile services available on condition that the company involved must have at least 80 foreign workers lined up for renewal.
If the company has more than 10 foreign employees, it could book an appointment with the bureau through its "pre-queue" service via e-mail, he said. Pol Maj-Gen Surapol said the company should also e-mail its foreign employees' profiles in advance so that officers could prepare renewal documents and set a date for its employees to obtain the papers.
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Posted on: 8:20 pm on Oct. 22, 2006
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LocalYokul
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that is so f***in' stupid
any company that employs 10 or more foreigners will also have a person dedicated to renewing their visas and work permits
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Posted on: 8:51 pm on Oct. 22, 2006
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