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oneeye
Yep, Boomarang.  Goodwill schmoodwill.  The guy's done a great job and definitely deserves a hell of a return on his 20%.


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Posted on: 5:44 am on Mar. 2, 2003
edenpapa

Quote: from oneeye on 3:40 pm on Mar. 2, 2003
By the way, the reason goodwill may not enter into the considerations of the purchase of Eden are because I doubt whoever buys it really needs to be concerned with balance sheets and official reporting. ÝI hope the business is not being valued on assets + goodwill - this is far too simplistic and as well how the hell do you value incredible sex?



hi oneeye

buying and selling business is not my job ,
everybody know my job
i don't want to discuss something i don't know about
the best i can do is to refer you and everyone to :

asia@sunbeltnetwork.com

see you
marc


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Posted on: 6:22 am on Mar. 2, 2003
oneeye
No worries, Edenpapa.


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Posted on: 9:04 am on Mar. 2, 2003
edenpapa

Quote: from oldhand on 6:02 pm on Mar. 2, 2003

I cannot believe there are many people who could put up with all the shit
and hassel that goes with SUCCESFULLY running
this type of grey business.



hi oldhand

feels good to see that some guys still can see behind the scene

thank you
see you
marc


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Posted on: 9:25 am on Mar. 2, 2003
BoomARang
"You are correct assuming 30 Million baht vs the 37 Million baht."

Marc, you should be so happy to get all of this free business advice!!  

From now on, I'm not going to step foot in any of the bars in NEP or Soi Cowboy without being informed of their financial portfolio and status.  Of course I never have before but at least now, I have a reason!  ;)


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Posted on: 9:51 am on Mar. 2, 2003
bkkexpat
Edenpapa,

Thanks for your word about the VIP, I know you are trustworthy, so that gives me piece of mind.

bkkexpat


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Posted on: 9:14 pm on Mar. 2, 2003
loupilou
Just two words Marc : Well done !
You have given to this place a real strong financial value, it is just the normal return on your giant own time and energy invests.
See you

Loupilou


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Posted on: 8:51 am on Mar. 3, 2003
Sunbelt
<Or is it the goodwill ?

What is there to stop anybody (for example, myself) from setting up a club with exactly the same concept and hire similar girls or even all or some of the girls from Eden Club ?

I would therefore conclude that the Club is definitely OVER-VALUED at 37 million baht !!!!!!!!!!!! >

I could understand without having all the information, you might have that feeling. The fact is with the current growth of Eden Club, the buyer should obtain a 40% or higher return per year. Marc and the Bar Manager are agreeing to stay on till Oct 2006 and sign a non-compete. He takes off 10 days out of the month now anyway.

Can someone duplicate this business? We know of several clubs that have tried. No one has come close. This is even after many Eden clients being turned away with the shortage of ìmeeting roomsî With the influx of more rooms being built; the sales will continue to grow. In the past 4 years, they have gone up 800%.

As for valuations..

The reality is there are different buyersÖ

A. Buyers who only look at the bottom line and use rule of thumbs.
B. Buyers who look at the asset value (These buyers will give a brand new bar a higher bid price than a old one)
C. Buyers who want a hobbyÖmoney is not important
D. Buyers who want pride of ownership. They are the man, the myth and the Legend.
E. Buyers who are bottom feeders. Looking for a bargain.


This is why you can throw sometimes all valuations out the window. A business or anything for that matter is worth what someone will pay for it.

As an example...We have a simply stunning restaurant that is in a great location. The seller invested 13 million and is now looking to sell it at 6 million, as he is being transferred to Europe. The restaurant looks great, has a chef that makes 100,000 baht a month. However the food sucks and the service is worse. They do 20 covers a day. Itís an asset sale. A good manager could turn this place around. Itís waiting for an ìEî buyer. The price still has not dropped enough.

We also had a Noodle Shop that makes 260,000 Baht NET per month. They have already served 500 people by 8 am. They close at 2:30 pm. The place just prints money. This business sold in one week. We had some buyers look at it and turn up their nose (category D) while the first buyer who was (category A) could not wait to buy it. It in fact had a higher asking price than the simply stunning restaurant.

The point is, everybody is motivated by different things. Same as girlsÖ some guys want a trophy and some donít care what the girl looks like, as long as she donít ask for money.

Welcome to Thailand, where itís the same as the rest of the world. People are the same everywhere. What motivates you? If itís moneyÖthen Mr. Marc sure knows that business! He knows give the customer want they want and people will give you lots of it. The new owner will insist that formula is followed.






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Posted on: 1:07 am on Mar. 4, 2003
oldhand
The reality is there are different buyersÖ

A. Buyers who only look at the bottom line and use rule of thumbs.
VERY APPROPRIATE FOR EDEN!
B. Buyers who look at the asset value (These buyers will give a brand new bar a higher bid price than a old one)
NOT SURE ABOUT THE ASS-ET VALUE AT EDEN!
C. Buyers who want a hobbyÖmoney is not important
MOST BUYERS AT EDEN ARE PURSUING THEIR HOBBIES!
D. Buyers who want pride of ownership. They are the man, the myth and the Legend.
SURE MANY LEGENDS AND MYTHS CAN BE FOUND
AT EDEN!
E. Buyers who are bottom feeders. Looking for a bargain.
SAY NO MORE!


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Posted on: 1:36 am on Mar. 4, 2003
edenpapa
Marc and the Bar Manager are agreeing to stay on till Oct 2006 and sign a non-compete. He takes off 10 days out of the month now anyway.

hi sunbelt

if you don't mind my correcting

my intention was to stay ( if asked for ) up to the 1st august 2006
MIND the bartender and manager when i am off , was not at this point in the deal
i did ask her and the answer was :
ok papa , i stay with you up to this date and i will sign the same non- compete contract

see you
marc


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Posted on: 2:51 am on Mar. 4, 2003
     

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