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thailien
"A BJ by most any girl in BKK goes for less then 1000baht and any other insertions go for a bit more, even though the BJ takes far more energy on the womans part. Once again, it is all a matter of opinion. "

How does this square with the oily pricing structure of 500 for HJ, 1000 for BJ, and 1500 for the real thing?


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Posted on: 3:15 pm on April 19, 2009
jroirqbkk
Not sure about the "oily" pricing structure, but any BJ bar, massage joint or other place I have been, BJs are less then 1000baht, normaly about 600-800baht (plus any tip).

If anybody can be more specific, it would be appreciated.


Thanks and everybody have fun out there.

JRO


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Posted on: 5:26 pm on April 19, 2009
jibblies
There are 5 or 6 cameras, I think. At least one on the immediate area outside, one just inside the corner on the left, where the seating starts. One at the other end of the bar, one halfway up the stairs, one in the locker area on the second floor. There's probably one on the third floor too, I'd guess, but it's been a long time since I've been up there and I can't remember. None watch inside the bj booths (as far as I know) ! I doubt any of the girls would want to work there if they had. They grumble enough about the existing cameras already because there's no place to hide when they're tired or hot.

I feel weird going just bottomless, for one thing, so I take my top off too. (The other reasons are because of the heat and fluids getting everywhere).

I've managed to persuade one of the cuties to get nude in the booth for a bj. Another wouldn't, despite numerous tries. (Others I specfically asked to keep their clothes ON! )

Girls don't regard bjs as 'cheating'?! You mean in general? So I can stroll out of my apartment, calling out "Just going for a bj, honey? I'll be back in half an hour"?!

Or do you mean the girls who work there? That they regard it as not cheating with respect to their boyfriends or husbands? I think they regard anything they do there as not cheating. They would give you the universal answer: "It's work". If it were really not cheating, of course, they'd be able to tell their boyfriends what they did for a living instead of pretending that there's just pool upstairs!


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Posted on: 2:13 am on April 20, 2009
mansaturday
I go naked. At the Star of Light too.


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Posted on: 3:23 pm on April 23, 2009
anakin skywalker
my socks/shoes or slippers=flip-flops stay on...everything else is optional to coming off
555


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Posted on: 2:09 am on April 25, 2009
jibblies
A while ago there was a bit of a discussion about the management and the girls getting fed up and a few people asked (quite logically) 'If it's so bad, why don't they leave?'

Now their 3 best looking girls (for my money) have left in a short period of time.

I hear one wanted to work on and off but they just aren't flexible, especially with the massive barfine. I don't really get it. It's difficult enough to get cute girls in normal bars, let alone bj bars so I would have thought they'd have made it a bit easier...


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Posted on: 9:13 am on April 25, 2009
Joe Wood
Quote from jroirqbkk :..........
."..............................................Is it cheating??...........
.......in my honest opinion, it is a lot less personal then sex or even kissing. There is no possiblity of getting her pregnant, even if she does swallow! haha (thought maybe a bad joke was needed there) And even though it feels so good, it is a business transaction at heart, money paid for services rendered..................."

Cheating for whom ?
There are two parties ( at least ) involved here.

For one, the service provider, it is certainly not cheating for her.
It is work.
A business transaction.
Paid for.
Finished.
No emotional attachment or involvement.
Maybe a few dramatic displays of just how much she is enjoying sucking off an old wrinkley bastard, old enough to be her grandfather.
An occasional moan or twitch or shudder for effect and that's it.

and then..............

"..............Bye Bye sir. Come again soon.

Next please....."

Uncomplicated.
No strings.
No meaning for her.
No cheating.

She can return to her boyfriend / husband / partner in the full knowledge that they have not been cheating.
No emotional attachment.
As far as she knows,not to be seen again.
No involvement of the heart.
Just work....and of course it is just for money..so everyone can live and eat and not worry.

On the other hand, the husband / boyfriend or partner should not be even in the know about the nature of her work.
It might put ideas into his head. and for him....
Going for sex or a bj would not be work for him...........
....it would be for pleasure............and therefore that would definitely be cheating on her.

So.............. No way.


As for the customers, whether they are married or not, with or without a favourite line-up of freelancers and / or go-go girls, they are all cheating.
They all lie.
None of them are to be trusted.
They talk bullshit most of the time.

They are cheating because they are after sexual pleasure.
......and having to buy it from a stranger who is not wiling to give it to them for free.
Customers are cheating their partners and abusing you.....but.....
But they are your money.....
so....................
Smile,
act as to how pleased you are to see them,
treat them well and take whatever they give you,
let them depart with the feeling and impression that it will be a joy to you for them to return again soon..and that you will be completely open for them.

But then it takes all sorts.
No girl is mechanical.
Each one has feelings and emotions.
And, except for the few hard-nosed bitches, walking the fine line there is many a slip between emotional feelings and service provider distance, some purposefully made for effect, others accidental.

As for the degree of intimacy of an act, that is a culturally, societally and familially formed impression.

You may think that a girl allowing you to f*** her in the arse is more intimate than kissing.
But there are more germs and bacteria exchanged in a full kiss.
You may think that a girl sucking you off and swallowing your semen is more intimate than f***ing you with her pussy with no form of contraception.
In sucking you off, she's risking far, far less infection and she aint going to fall for a kid that would alter her life drastically or have the necessity of an abortion thrust upon her.

Others may disagree and choose the latter options as more intimate.

Each of these acts has a degree of vulnerability attached to them, balancing on some form of trust, with options to view the act as generous or humiliating, an act of giving joy or a form of degradation or something inbetween.

Even if you think you are free of Judaic-Christian cultural and religious influences, you are a male, a hunter, with skills and inclinations you use in a variety of situations.
You have needs, fears, insecurities, uncertainties and these as well as your strengths and known resources and reserves colour your moves and choices.

In the world of deviancy, a perversion is an act that has taken the place in the mind in importance and preference over consensual sexual union ( full sex with the deposit of semen either in or at the uterus or on the way, whether encased in latex rubber or not ).

So if you get too fond of your partner generously feeding your craving for more intimacy by urinating into you mouth or find yourself getting tired of emptying out your office filing cabinets of panties snatched from washing lines to sniff later, I'd sit down and have a complete re-think.

But wait !
What neon-pink lit pussy sign lights up yonder entrance in the soi ?
Ah yes..
This isn't the West with its sexually repressive religious and cultural values.
This is South-East Asia and if you want it, you get it. That's it.
No frustration,
No hours, days, months of longing.
It's here on your doorstep.
Smell the air.
That's pussy.

Personally, I believe in a mutual no-holes-barred scenario, giving and recieving pleasure,each discovering what the other likes best and indulging her whilst being indulged.
And the devil take the hindmost.

The Devil take the hindmost

Meaning

A proverbial phrase indicating that those who lag behind will receive no aid.

Origin

The line was first recorded in print in Beaumont and Fletcher's tragic/comic play Philaster, or Love Lies a-Bleeding, 1611:

"They run all away, and cry, 'the devil take the hindmost'."

The expression was known colloquially prior to that though. The Oxford Dictionary of Quotations lists "Every man for himself and the Devil take the hindmost" as an 'early 16th century' proverb.


Having said that, there comes a time in the day, or night for that matter, when, being only human, you have to answer a call of nature.

So I did.
She's coming round now.
And knowing how way leads on to way, it wont be just for a blow-job either.
Have a good night, playmates.


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Posted on: 12:04 pm on April 25, 2009
Pegasus1
Dear Joe: As usual your posts are articulate and well thought out. I myself am going through “withdrawal”.
I have had several bad experiences as of late (‘psychobitch’ and “runaway soo”). They are of course my “personal” failures and do not reflect in anyway what anyone else should be doing in Thailand.

However, every time I promise myself that I have “outgrown” the ‘nightlife scene’, I find myself right back in the middle of it. I do have a semblance of self-control; but it seems that when the Thai flight attendant tells us: “To fasten our seat belts”, I get a hard on. I have no guilt or inhibitions at the stage of my life (of course this only applies when in Thailand), but these women have unbelievable power over us. Thank God they don’t realize how much…


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Posted on: 8:52 am on April 26, 2009
NicFrenchy

Quote: from Pegasus1 on 8:52 pm on April 26, 2009
but these women have unbelievable power over us. Thank God they don't realize how much...



Only 3 things:

Unbelievable power over us? no chance

Thank god? right, why not thank Goblins too? maybe they exist as well

They don't realize how much? it depends. They feel it rather quickly when in the presence of a sucker. I don't think it's a matter of the girl not realising, it's a matter of how dumb the punter is.

Just my opinion (not to be taken too seriously) LOL


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Posted on: 10:45 am on April 26, 2009
jibblies

Quote: from Joe Wood on 12:04 am on April 26, 2009

She can return to her boyfriend / husband / partner in the full knowledge that they have not been cheating.
No emotional attachment.
As far as she knows,not to be seen again.
No involvement of the heart.
Just work....and of course it is just for money..so everyone can live and eat and not worry.

On the other hand, the husband / boyfriend or partner should not be even in the know about the nature of her work.
It might put ideas into his head.
and for him....
Going for sex or a bj would not be work for him...........
....it would be for pleasure............and therefore that would definitely be cheating on her.

So.............. No way.

As for the customers, whether they are married or not, with or without a favourite line-up of freelancers and / or go-go girls, they are all cheating.
They all lie.
None of them are to be trusted.
They talk bullshit most of the time.

They are cheating because they are after sexual pleasure.
......and having to buy it from a stranger who is not wiling to give it to them for free.



Ah, the "but that's WORK" line peddled by the girls...

I'm reminded of watching Jonathan Ross interview the film director Pedro Almodovar. Ross asked "Tell me, why do you have so much sex and nudity in your movies?" Almovodar replied disarmingly "Because it's in the script." Ross exclaimed, laughing: "But YOU write the script!"

It's the same with the girls. They write their own scripts. They're the ones who decide to suck off guys for money in preference to earning money other ways. And, more often than not, it's not money just "to eat" (as you imply). It's a cold grab for money to buy non essential material goods. A camera, a better make of car, some designer clothes, silly perfumes, things for 'show'.

Now there's nothing wrong with that in itself and, as a monger, I'm glad that they do feel like this, but, unless the girl's partner is in full knowledge of what she does AND agrees to it, she IS cheating him. She's cheating him for the sake of a bit of extra cash. For a pretty camera she can show off to her peers. For another dress, for one of those silly skin creams that they believe does something...

Basically if a girl doesn't tell her partner that she performs sexual services for cash, it's cheating.

Suppose that a girl told her partner what she did and the partner said "Please, I don't want you to do that. We don't need the extra frills on that car. We don't need this, we can do without that." But would the girl stop? I doubt it. She isn't telling the guy in the first place because she has already unilaterally made this decision - the one of preferring extra things over his feelings. He doesn't even have a say.

Of course, if the guy knows and agrees, it's fine. But otherwise it IS cheating.

I'll give you a solid example of a Lolita's girl who is cheating. I know one girl who, while she was working at Lolita's, told her Thai boyfriend that she 'couldn't' do blowjobs. In other words, he wanted this from her but she told him she couldn't do it for him. So how would he feel if he found out that, while she was claiming this, she was sucking off 10 guys a day? Imagine it! She could do it in the name of money but not in the name of love. She could do this thing for a mere 300B (if the customer didn't tip) but would not do it for love. That's cheating in a big way...

You've gone much too far bending over backwards to support the girl's view (and only the girl's selfish view). These girls could live a different way. Many girls outside p4p do and economise their lifestyle and do sexual things only for their boyfriends rather than choose the p4p way. Thank goodness for mongers that some girls do seek money this way. But let's not swallow everything the girls try to push on us...

As for the thought of single guys "cheating because they are after sexual pleasure.
......and having to buy it from a stranger who is not wiling to give it to them for free."...

... I think that's bullshit. If a guy buys a sandwich from a shop rather than making it himself, is that "cheating"? And if you try to reply "Well sexual pleasure isn't like a sandwich, you know", then that's admitting that what the girls sell is deeply personal - especially for an unknowing partner.

But you know that maybe only you and I are interested in this. The rather specialised case of a bj bar girl's partner... The original poster was surely just talking about the Bill Clinton general case of bj versus full sex...


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Posted on: 2:00 am on April 27, 2009
     

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