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dirty guru
Harold, you havent experienced something -

Expat is 100% right -

You need to get out more-

Thailand is wonderful - and the Thais I have lived around toil all day -

But their fields are lush unlike some poorer areas-

I am not here to convince some cynical arsehole-

I dont care what people Think-

But it is blantantly wrong to say the majority of Thais are bad or untrustworthy or undecent-

I have seen both sides of the coin-

Certainly my credientials as a p4p long term punter is unquestionable- I have stayed north south - f***ed them all-

But it is plain misleading to cast the haunts you or I have dwelled in around p4p as being the "real" Thailand-

Define real"?

Well what makes up both the landscape most- its people and values-

There is a great body of deeply religious good gentle hard working Thais out there-

And no what I truely love about Thailand on a personal level is not just pussy -

Its what I have learnt in the countryside-

And yes some Farmers daughters in all their simplicistical manners make for a different experience-

I have had hooker wifes and younger sweethearts before-

I am not knocking anyone who is happy and/or it works for them -

But spare equally the bullshit when you address a Thailand you seem to know little about-

Like I said I dont care a f*** what you think - but like Expat and quim and Dopey - I think some balance is needed to give the reader unaware of both sides (or points ) of view-


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Posted on: 8:24 pm on Nov. 30, 2010
Dopey
China S:

"It is Pollyanna to think that because the majority is good the place is all sunshine and lollies...."

Yes it is. And has anybody here ever said or hinted or implied that Thailand is all sunshine and lollies?

About Singapore: What I said was that if you reduce a country to the sum of all the negatives, then Singapore would be a much better place. Still I will not move to Singapore because I don't apply this kind of reductionist view of Thailand or any other country. From this does not follow that Singapore should be better or worse than Thailand.

Where is your logic, China S?

And who is the Cheap Charlie - is that me? If so - I wasn't aware that you know me personally?


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Posted on: 8:50 pm on Nov. 30, 2010
harold444
im plugged in!

i do see thailand for what it is. very few good and a whole lotta bad.

my glasses are of the clear type not rose coloured!

isnt being born in the country a bad thing? horrible education system and no jobs.

and being born in the city is no guarantee of success-bloodlines do matter in thailand.


why r so many trying to flee thai countryside-only ones who want to move in are farangs...................lol.


sorry dg, but it is I who sees los as it is. as much as you dont want to admit it hookers and ladeeboys are part of real thailand.

guys flying overseas for lt and st are also part of real thailand...........lol.

telling mil no money for you is also part of real thailand.....although not much have the balls to do this.........lol.

guys saying they dont give thai family money when in fact they do is also part of real thailand.........lol.

no offense but anyone who chooses to raise a kid in thailand is nutts!


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Posted on: 10:37 pm on Nov. 30, 2010
nutsup

Quote: from harold444 on 11:37 am on Dec. 1, 2010
no offense but anyone who chooses to raise a kid in thailand is nutts!



+1


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Posted on: 1:13 am on Dec. 1, 2010
magnum

Quote: from harold444 on 11:37 am on Dec. 1, 2010
no offense but anyone who chooses to raise a kid in thailand is nutts!
... a Thai behavioral psychologist here with a wealth of experience treating adolescents from all demographic strata sums it all up for me, stating that:

1. From a clinical perspective, Thailand is a sick country;
2. She will only have children if she can raise them outside of Thailand; and,
3. She knows other young Thai couples who believe the same.

... an indictment of Thai culture, if ever I heard one!

... I am up close to some pretty ugly stuff here (abandoned and abused children), and agree with her and Harry.


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Posted on: 10:46 am on Dec. 1, 2010
China Sailor
Dopey.... suitable name.... ya gotta know your bros man.

Cheap Charlie is a old BTF hand, one of the originals like me. I put that in because I know that when he reads my comments about Singapore he will complain about their drug policy.... sorta cutting him off at the pass.

As for my logic.... I live and base my business in Singapore to enjoy the advantages of being in what could be said to be a 'first world' country. Meanwhile I am only a couple of hours from the carnal pleasures of Thailand, PI, Vietnam, or Cambodia.

Furthermore add another hour or so and I am playing with the sweeties of Chengdu, Guangzhou, and Zhuhai.

So why should I fight the corruption, bureaucracy, and conflict in the Thai governing structure when I can have a stable high-growth base in Singapore...



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Posted on: 12:27 pm on Dec. 1, 2010
DaffyDuck
It is the sickness that makes us all go there, because it makes fun and partying easy, cheap and convenient.

The problem only arises for those:

- that get their hooker pregnant, get married, and seem to feel legitimate.
- that use Thailand and Thais to work through their neuroses and treat Thais like crap.
- that are on the run from themselves, and live out their issues in Thailand.

The *real* problems arise when you have individuals that combine all the above.

Say, has anyone seen NM?

I do have to agree with the behavioral psychologist listed earlier - the best chance to succeed for Thais is by perfecting their English, and moving outside Thailand.



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Posted on: 1:59 pm on Dec. 1, 2010
harold444
very true.

it is becoz thailand is so screwed up we like it.

i didnt want to say it earlier, but maybe pussy permeates thailands soul more than most of us think..................lol. and not it a good way!


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Posted on: 2:20 pm on Dec. 1, 2010
cheapcharlie

Quote: from China Sailor on 7:27 am on Dec. 2, 2010
Cheap Charlie is a old BTF hand, one of the originals like me. I put that in because I know that when he reads my comments about Singapore he will complain about their drug policy.... sorta cutting him off at the pass.

Hi China thanks I just think they should be more consistent so hang anyone caught with more than a 5th of voBKa or 10 heinekens. Of course corporal punishment for those caught with user amounts that will teach them.

Dont worry I have no intention of visiting Singapore im 200 yrs too late although friends that have been told me there was lots of splif being smoked on the beaches.

Personally I dont smoke and certainly not in SE asia
just a little herbal tea or cake safely back in Amsterdam.

I only come to thailand because my wife forces me into it, I hate the place.

I see you got a new playmate was Daffy no fun anymore.


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Posted on: 5:02 pm on Dec. 1, 2010
dirty guru
Thai woman who only wants kids raised outside Thailand as an idication of "WHAT"?..Many woman use that as a bargaining chip to move to richer pastures-

(read house and assets and insurance much later)

One of my Thai wifes once told me that shit I said "f*** off - I am not that stupid.......

Truth is Thai Is Thai - they may like your country - a while at least-

One day when old they return - some sooner-

Some never- (to live)

But dont kid yourself that they hate the place mister would be princes in shining armour-

As for Thailand is f***ed up

The average moron knows and can discern there is good and bad in all races and cultures-

The hookers are in the miniority and "please if your limited in your knowledge outside of p4p areas- place the comments in Context"

Every where you find hookers on mass you find drugs corruption, vice, and a perception the sky is grey"

Any country



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Posted on: 6:41 pm on Dec. 1, 2010
     

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