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fastmover
Chelsea gets 2 more cracks at Arsenal?
Man that's beautiful.
Two previous losses?
Now the trap is set.


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Posted on: 9:16 am on Mar. 12, 2004
Hermanolobo
Veron might make a difference if he plays ?


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Posted on: 9:45 am on Mar. 12, 2004
dids
Madrid v Milan final... I agree, not that I want Milan in the final.

caronte... can you remember a team winning the European Cup on their opponents OWN pitch, in front of their OWN fans, oh yeah it was in Italy, in Roma, on penalties... now that takes CLASS! enuf said!


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Posted on: 3:00 pm on Mar. 12, 2004
breathless
Milan will be very happy to see both Arsenal and Real Madrid in the opposite half of the draw.


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Posted on: 6:07 pm on Mar. 12, 2004
fastmover

Quote: from Hermanolobo on 10:45 pm on Mar. 12, 2004
Veron might make a difference if he plays ?


I am not sure Veron is that good. I don't like him really.

Any victory for Chelsea must come from the strikers, who are not producing relative to the investment made in them. The rest of the team is better than the strikers, whereas at Arsenal/ManU the strikers are better than the rest of the team.


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Posted on: 6:31 pm on Mar. 12, 2004
caronte
During the '90, AC Milan kicked out teams like Real Madrid, Steaua Bucarest, Barcelona, and more than a couple of times Milan won the final 4-0, 5-0.....not that I remember any other team winning in this way.......it took almost 10 years to Real Madrid to get back to the top of the Eufa after having been so badly beaten by AC Milan......and, Milan, different from other big spenders, has never been famous for purchases out of this world!
And finally, AC Milan is not the one to be afraid or glad to miss the opportunity for a match with Real or Arsenal or Chelsea....if you look back in the records, AC Milan had more difficulties with smaller teams while it has always performed very well against the big guns......


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Posted on: 7:40 pm on Mar. 12, 2004
fastmover
caronte....your support for ACMilan is admirable, however, it is also ludicrous. A defeat from AC Milan is the sole cause of R. Madrid's failure for almost 10 years?

That's some really bad pasta.


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Posted on: 7:49 pm on Mar. 12, 2004
Smegma
Caronte, eat this:

"On December 11th 2000, at its annual gala awards ceremony, FIFA presented Real Madrid with the "Club of the Century" award."

REAL MADRID:

National level:

National Championships 29
National Cups 17
League Cups 1
National Supercups 7

International:

UEFA Champions Cups 9 (1955-56 1956-57 1957-58 1958-59 1959-60 1965-66 1997-98 1999-2000 2001-02 It is the only club that not only holds but also owns the European Cup since it has won the title 5 times in a row.)

Uefa Cups 2 (1984-85 1985-86)

Uefa Supercups 2 (2002)

Intercontinental Cups 3 (1960 - 1998 - 2002)

And much more. If you want to check the details, click here:

http://www.realmadrid.com/web_realmadrid/templates/palmares/palmaresfutbol.jsp

By the way, Real has never lost a final it has played of the Champions Cup. AC Milan lost one. Guess what team beat it in a final?

Just pulling your leg Caronte. But do not boast about AC Milan beating Real on a specific date. As Real has beaten Milan more often and in more important games. nani nani na.




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Posted on: 11:39 pm on Mar. 12, 2004
caronte
Smeg, go back and read the UEFA records...you'll see that the numbers are in favour of AC Milan when playing agains Real Madrid...and talking of International trophies, AC Milan and Real Madrid have the very same numbers of awards....with the last Intercontinental Cup we lost to Boca, Milan would have been the top!
Ehehe...nice try Smeggy!


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Posted on: 12:05 am on Mar. 13, 2004
Smegma
Real Madrid 9 UEFA Champions Cup
AC Milan 6 UEFA Champions Cup.

Only one UEFA Champions CUP final played between them and Real won.

Caronte, there is no discussion anywhere that Real has the most impressive international palmares of any team. For some reason it was named by FIFA team of the century.

You can be a fan, but do not need to be blind.

Better go read and do some research on the matter. BTW, some of the comments I made were with the intention to wind you up. But being objective, is another matter. I will not discuss the merits of one or other team if you are going to be blinded by fanaticism.

Cheers




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Posted on: 12:23 am on Mar. 13, 2004
     

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