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LocalYokul
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I'm out ??
don't think so 
so you're married to a "good girl" but prefer shaggin' around on the side, big surprise
now, let's see
you're married a to a good girl from Mahasarakahm
she's university material, never worked in a bar
you have a company front so you can own land in her town
there's another dime-a-dozen story
so where do we go to meet gals like this ?
please don't say Mahasarakahm, too far for me
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:14 am on Feb. 15, 2006
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cyborg
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Guys, Maybe I am simply cynical but I guess I believe that Sin Soht although apparently a Thai custom it seems to be another excuse to get money from the Falang. OK in THEIR culture it has a place but as that writer of the Stickman article points out...WE WILL NEVER BE part of their culture.
Why cant her family simply be happy with the ongoing monthly support you will be providing them? Oh dont forget...you are getting their daughter out of the bar business. Doesnt that count for something? What about honoring our culture by NOT expecting SS? Certainly explaining our beliefs/customs is a tremendous challenge but doesnt the bride and her family need to learn to compromise with you? Maybe it is better done right up front.
I know they dont want to admit/face the fact that their daughter was a BG but too bad.....we didnt put her in that bar.
Cant they just lie their asses off to the rest of the villagers? Cant they say..."Falang paid B100,000!!!"
They lie to each other to save face all the time...hell...they lie to themselves...."My uneducated daughter sends me B10,000 per month from Pattaya...you know those hotel maids get paid really well down there"
But when it comes to taking money from you they suddenly are unwilling to lie? If you dont pay then you are not honorable?
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 2:54 am on Feb. 15, 2006
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Mel Gibson
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Local,, after major bad divorce from Aus wife in 1988 I spent a few years feeling sorry for myself etc etc, then decided ok, what do I need in a wife and who around me is happily married.
Observations left me with only one answer,, I noted roughly 80% of my friends married to Asia wives where happy ( versus about 5% of my mates married to Aus/ euro. american),,,,,,,hmmmmm wonder why. Investigated and found that most Asian women ( not from major cities) have "family values" that use to be the norm in Aus 50 odd years ago.
OK, looks like my best chance to find a compatable partner is somewhere in Asia me thinks.
Got a passport and NOW where to go ??????? Bali ??? nah already full of Aus toursists,, Thailand,, NAH full of Aus / Euro etc toursists,,, ahh ok let me try Vietnam. Having Vietnamese friends I picked up maybe 50 words before my first trip,,,,AHHH what a GREAT place,, but not meeting "keepers " only renters.The story goes on through another 6 trips to Vietnam, 3 to the Phillipines, 2 to Thailand and one too China,,,
So where did I meet my Mrs,,, on ICQ chat forum ( I kid you not),,,,talked for months and months and then I said ok,, I'm coming to Thailand and it just went down the marriage path from there over the next 18 months - 2years.
There are plenty of her friends available but all my mates are either married or,,,,, lets say good mates but not the marrying / good husband types.
P.S the company front will soon be opening a new business in Thailand,, will take of year or so to set up properly but all the financial figures look great.
If all goes well perhaps "Aus-Thai trading " will invite you on an expenses paid trip,, after all you are a valued customer....LOL
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:36 am on Feb. 15, 2006
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Minder
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Mel Gibson Posted on 8:24 pm on Feb. 15, 2006
...."So where did I meet my Mrs,,, on ICQ chat forum ( I kid you not),,,,talked for months and months and then I said ok,, I'm coming to Thailand and it just went down the marriage path from there over the next 18 months - 2years. "
LOL....change ICQ to MSN and my story is identical about how I met the wife and the next 2 years. Gotta love the internet.
Cyborg - I hear you - actually I hear ME a few years ago - now I can only speak from my own experience and same as Mel, my wife was not a BG (Uni, office worker, working class family).
Firstly, where are you going to marry this girl? In Thailand? In a Buddhist ceremony? Monks chanting, water poured over the hands, loops of cord on the heads - you will submit to that custom but not the part where you hand over the money? How is that going to look? Probably like you are picking and choosing which customs you will follow according to what gives YOU the best financial outcome.
Also I tend to be able to see it from my father-in-laws perspective. He worked at his last blue-collar job for 30 years straight, took care of the family, gave the 3 daughters Uni educations, lost his son at sea (merchant marine) and basically has nothing to show for it all but three daughters who will take care of him in his old age (by the way - HE still sends money to his brother every month to help look after their 80 yr old mother). Now the eldest daughter is going to quit her job of the last 10 years and run off to farangland (wherever that is!) with a guy she met on the internet (whatever that is!).
And the farang, who earns nearly as much money in a month as the daughter did in a year says its not his custom to compensate the family for the loss of the daughter's income and help around the house??? As I said, I can understand Father Thai wondering why the hell he should be the only one who doesn't get a chair now the music has stopped! Enjoy.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 6:50 am on Feb. 15, 2006
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Bangkoksexydotcom
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Mel if they happend to change the CEO ? I mean they have the majority stock right? I am sure you have made them sign pappers that they sold the stocks already with a blank date if NOT do. The other way to do it is to have some one in the board they they have no clue who she or he is like some one from south thailand in some small fishing village then they can not get majority.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 9:02 am on Feb. 15, 2006
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Mel Gibson
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Yep, the secret is to have board members "at arms length", in this case a solicitor (paid by me so signs all papers upon my request) and friends unknown to each other from phuket/Om Noi/ home town,, very unlikely to ever meet.
Either way the solicitor explained somehow I have the "power" to veto even if the others voted to sell.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:12 pm on Feb. 15, 2006
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cyborg
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Minder, I hear what you are saying. I think if you are marrying a middle class lady the payment of SS is fine. Seems they might actually return it in whole or in part as is the custom apparently.
(I should mention for the record that I am married already so therefore will not be experiencing a Thai wedding myself. I have been wading into this thread simply out of curiosity for the subject.)
I would never make it a point to mention that the lady had been a BG during any SS discussion with her family but since they know it, they should be reasonable about what they expect.
I think if I were to marry a NonBG Thai I would be more open to paying a larger SS. If a BG I think I would be inclined to pay less since I believe they would keep it and the ongoing monthly support to them would likely be greater. I fully understand the need to provide some support to her family but a huge SS AND large monthly support....I wouldnt be too enthusiastic about it.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:43 pm on Feb. 16, 2006
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judge schmaels
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I've been following this thread with interest. I too was very leery on sin sot, but the issue has recently come up with my TGs family.
There have been some well-reasoned posts here, and nice not to just only hear the usual "it's a ripoff!" posts seen on some other boards. It's especially nice to hear from others with actual experience in the matter.
I wanted to add a comment by my TG's sister relative to my apprehension at ANY sin sot. She said "If he doesn't want to pay sin sot, why not just get married in _________ (insert western country) ?"
In other words, she was saying that if we wanted to get married and not pay a sin sot, why not do it elsewhere instead of coming to Thailand and having a ceremony, inviting the Thai relatives, and then blanking the in-laws on the sin sot for resultant face loss by the family and TG?
My first reaction was that she was just trying to extract baht from the falang, but upon later reflection I saw that she had a point..... "when in rome...".
As mentioned by another poster, one option is to just shack up and not get married. Another is to marry outside Thailand. But if you are getting married in Thailand, I think there is a reasonable expectation to come to a compromise with their cultural norms and not just state "I don't have to do that because I am not Thai."
JS
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:33 pm on Feb. 17, 2006
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cheapcharlie
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Bit like I did really,i got married in bangkok 7 yrs ago.
In the fact we signed papers, no ceremony, bought her thai gold. She was in the family way.
We talk about she wants a ceremony, but I will only agree to a simple thing her mother and father and her and our kids, no one else im not interested, and a small dinner afterwards within proportion.
She started of at a low price, gets more and more and eventually SIN SOT, I told her if she goes that route the door is over there.So its off again.
Even though its tradition, it depends on the situation, a mate of mine just paid 2000 Euros Sin Sot (which got mine going again) they love to show off these women.
In his case she took care of the whole family, farmers so not really a choice.
Mine shes from Bangkok,has 5 brothers and 1 sister, now what her parents have done to her is criminal, thats apart from denying her a proper education, stealing, beating her most of her childhod. Still
she buys them washing machines and tv s because she has her own money.
Like f*** im gonna give her parents money what they did to her, and her lazy brothers doing nothing.
She does have a few kids, two are young I take care of the education, pay the house where they stay, I dont mind taking care of children not grown ups.
Another point is the amount my wifes 2nd daughter has a bloke two kids I think 40 to 50 thousand was expected.If we are doing thai then lets keep the numbers the same.
But then thats where the dicrimination hits in, you see
i have technically two step -daughters I take care of them,so technically I should get Sin Sot when they get married, like hell I will. Suddenly its Thai for themselves and stuff the farang.
My wife has 4 kids she wants to put our son on her will
with the others, there reaction ' dont do that he have
falang papa rich why you do that '.
Sin sot is ok if its fair and inthe right situation it can be ok, but then again maybe not. Its up to the individual to decide.
With more kids going to UNI one of my step daughters included it is no longer neccessary. My wife wants no money from her children later on and we try to ecourage western values.
My father -in -law mentions through my wife it is strange I come every year but never give him money,not to me I never gave my own mother money why them.
my wife out of 7 children is the only one who takes care of them when they are sick or the tv broke.they also basically take advantage of her.
I did meet a women on the http://www.once, university educated, office job and last time I spoke to her she had take care of her brothers, because she was the only family member with a degree. Then I see how cruel thai society can be.
I dont mind going with tradition, but draw the line and grabbing my ankles and getting f***ed or having the feeling im getting f***ed. Of course a traditional family where the women you marry is taking care of everyone you will have to take care this is reasonable.
but people that are rich just stuffing their pockets and f***in the falang in the name of tradition well we all have to decide ourselves
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 4:02 pm on Feb. 17, 2006
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cyborg
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A sharp man recently suggested that if you were to simply give her and her family a single lump sum.....say B40,000.... and inform them that is all the money. That is the payment for the wedding/party and the Sin Sot. Would be funny to see how quickly the size of the wedding ceremony and party got pared down quickly.
Seems like a reasonable compromise. Let them choose how big of a ceremony/party they want vs SS. You are honoring their customs without being too cheap. Hell you are not rich they need to understand limits to begin with I would think.Best to not elevate their financial expectations of you for the future. There will be the ongoing support for her family etc. Ok but why give them the impression they can expect huge amounts from you??
Of course the amount would vary depending on the circumstances but in essence you let them choose what is most important to them.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:17 am on Feb. 18, 2006
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