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Chompoo

On the outskirts of Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea, it is reported, girls are now offering sex in return for a half a dozen cowry shells.

Will some of our brothers decamp to PNG to test the waters?

Problem is, the girls are butt ugly melanesians who smell bad, are disease ridden, and they are surrounded by their brothers and fathers who would like to kill you for your shoes and then make some long john bbq.

Thai girls on the other hand, work for not much more than 6 cowry shells (Thai currency in former times) but are beautiful, smell nice, are very hygienic, and the local ambiance is quite safe.

In short the market forces are more complex than the price.

I am arguing that at 1000 baht for ST, Thai pussy is STILL bargain basement, #1 Best Buy, World Beater Value.

The market forces have determined what the proper price should be. There are certainly places with attractive girls that are far cheaper than Thailand. If they had all the other benefits of Thailand, I'm sure more guys would go there and Thai prices would decline even further.

I find it interesting that you have no compassion for starving melanesian girls, when they are obviously reduced to far more horrible circumstances than the average Thai bargirl. This proves the point that the kind of charity you advocate comes from thinking with your dick.

But, perhaps you have convinced me that I should try even harder for those 500B STs so that I can afford to send a box of toothbrushes to PNG.


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Posted on: 7:37 pm on Sep. 20, 2002
Chompoo
Hypothetical question. What would happen if there were a 1000B minimum on any form of prostitution in Thailand?

Come to your own conclusions, but here are mine.

1) All the girls who were offering bargain prices before will be forced out of the market completely. They may be able to pull a few 1000B tricks a few times a month when all the younger and more attractive girls have been taken, but in general they will be looked over.

2) Many people who take sanuk into consideration when choosing a travel destination will no longer visit Thailand (people from America and Japan will still come, other nationalities will suffer declines). Also, some customers who do come will have fewer encounters to save money. Overall, though I expect there will be slightly more money coming in to Thailand through prostitution.

3) The top end girls were already making more than 1000 so they experience little change in income (they do get a slight bump since the lack of competition over the low-end prices trickles up).

4) The average girls who were getting close to 1000 get a few more customers at a consistently higher rate and their income jumps by a decent percentage.

5) Because of #4 more girls come from the farms, factories, etc. Ý(if they were on the fence when the bargirls were making 8000/month they will do it for 12000/month).

6) More girls means fewer 1000B STs for each girl and eventually the girls are making about what they did before.

The final result is that all we have done is decreased the number of acts of prostitution and potentially increased the number of unhappy prostitutes. We've thus created a very inefficient work force and a lot of sexually frustrated men. But we have made some people happy that now the girls are getting proper value for their pussies (whatever that means).

If we can do this with 1,000B, why not 2,000 or 10,000? At 10,000 every poor girl in Thailand can become a prostitute and only have to sleep with some smelly farang once very two months to get by. I think we're on to something.


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Posted on: 8:13 pm on Sep. 20, 2002
ABC
chateaujade:
Great example by using the rice and hunger situation.
I think any person that has a consciense and a heart, would give the stardard rate of 2 bags, if not more.

Just goes to show how selfish some people can be.


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Posted on: 9:39 pm on Sep. 20, 2002
Skip
Drag my bleeding gums into it, will ya? Wanker!

And you couldn't be more wrong, the dental staff doesn't get a tip, period.

No siree, when they're done I waltz the pearly whites over to the LT gals where I've now gotten the decent gents' equivalent of 2, 3, or 4 (at the most)nights of politically correct bliss. Ý


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Posted on: 10:41 pm on Sep. 20, 2002
chateaujade
Thanks, ABC. You do understand, and that's all that matters.

Chompoo: you are an asshole. Go and see your pal Mykal and have a great time. As I said earlier, there's no point in discussing this with you because you have a closed mind.

You wouldn't happen to be a Scot would you?

Is the Sergeant Major finished repairing the regimental condom yet?


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Posted on: 3:46 am on Sep. 21, 2002
cmore
Damn brother CJ, you don't believe in taking any prisoners do you? ( Did I actually just say that about a guy in the domme business? ). You speak a simple truth, and a fair one at that, and I will always have your back because even if you don't always agree with what's being said, at least you're always willing to listen to what's being said. Fight the good fight Jedi Master.                                                                                                                                                                         Some of the brothers may accuse me of following you around this forum like a puppy dog but I read your previous post and I found it uncanny that you quoted the exact same "standard" ST and LT fees that I had heard mentioned during my first trip to LOS in May, and mentioned by who? Some of the actual ladies that I met and got to know during my visit.                                                                                                                                                                             Granted the women I talked to and got to know were all beer bar ladies and not gogo bar ladies but they seemed to know what the bottom line was. This is why after talking to them I figured that the "standard" fee seemed to be 1000 baht for ST and 1500 to 2000 baht for LT. Does this really sound so unreasonable? Maybe it might have helped if I had bothered to mention this before now. Sorry                                                                                                                                                                            My apologies to all the brothers who have thought that I've been trying to tell them how they should spend their money ( One more sorry to brother Big D ). That thought never occured to me because I don't work your job for you and you don't work mine for me. How you choose to spend your hard earned money is your business but just try to think about how little 1000, 1500, or even 2000 baht really is. These seem to be, at least to me, a fair "standard" and from the few ladies I spoke to these are the fees that the majority of them will quote.                                                                                                                                                                         At least this gives you a basic idea of what to expect so that if one of them quotes you a higher fee you will know to have your guard up and to proceed with caution. And should she quote you a fee that is lower then the "standard" then consider it a bit of good luck on your part instead of as an opening to try your haggling skills on her and try to get her to come down even further. She just quoted you a fee that's less then the accepted "standard".                                                                                                                                          Some of the brothers will probably think that that's a sign of someone who is desperate to make some money instead of having to go home empty handed. Know what I think it could be a sign of? Maybe she actuallys likes you just a little bit. Maybe she might actually think of you as being a nice guy. Maybe she might actually be attracted to you for some reason. ( Okay guys, go ahead and say that brother Cmore has sailed away once again on the Love Boat and needs to come back into the real world. Trust me, I can take it ).                                                                                                                                                                               Come on guys, is my world really that hard to imagine? If it is then try to remember the reality. That it wasn't me who quoted those fees as being "standard", it was the ladies I spoke to on the subject. Granted I only talked to 3 or 4 ladies which doesn't even come close to counting as a majority, but who should know better then the ones that are actually providing the service.                                                                                                                                                                         Once again, I don't have anything against anyone partaking in the nightlife of LOS. Go for it and have fun. However if you're going to participate in the Pay for Play game then what's wrong with playing fair. Peace


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Posted on: 10:41 am on Sep. 21, 2002
Jumping Jack
Cmore

Sorry bro but can I ask a streight question.

The answer will help me vey much for my next post on this thread

Give or take a few baht what is your normal rate of pay for 1 days work - just a usual days pay - converted to baht please

This is not a flame or anything bad but a need a answer so I can formulate a opinion on this thread

Please tell the truth if you feel comfortable about telling the brotherhood

Thanks

JJ


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Posted on: 10:51 am on Sep. 21, 2002
cmore
Hey brother JJ, nice to hear from you. I hope you just read my other post to you. Thanks again, I really needed that. No JJ I don't have a problem discussing my job or pay with you. You were polite enough to ask me an honest and straight forward question and that's how I will answer it for you.                                                                                  I work for an alarm company. I install security systems such as burglar alarms, fire alarms, video systems, door access systems, etc. in homes and businesses. If you were to convert my hourly wage into baht, at appprox. 40 to 1, it would come to about 680 baht per hour, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week ( Or the short version: 40 hours per week ). My job is the reason why I wouldn't try to tell anyone how they should spend their money. I've been at this almost 9 years, crawling through peoples attics with a bunch of wires in one hand and a flashlight in the other, trying not to put my foot through their ceiling and breathing in fiberglass insulation particles. So trust me when I say that no body is going to tell me how to spend that paycheck each week. However I don't mind if they were to suggest that I spend it wisely.                                                                              I hope that I've answered your question satisfactorily. Now if you'll excuse me I just looked at the clock and I realize that I'M SUPOSE TO BE LEAVING FOR THE AIRPORT IN ONE HOUR! THANKS A LOT BROTHER JJ! .                                                                                  Ruamchitt hotel next week bros. First rounds on me. Peace


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Posted on: 11:24 am on Sep. 21, 2002
Jumping Jack
Cmore

many thanks for that it helps

Ok Bro's This has been a long thread and I have watched it carefully

Many times a bro asks for advice and then seems to take it - best hotel - best MP ect

But when a Bro has an opinion it is not so oftern that he changes his mind after "talking" about it on the board

Well I am close to changing my opinion - I will put myself in the Semi Cheap Charlie section not to bad but certainly able to see the border so to speak

After reading this thread I started to think and am almost ready to switch horses in mid stream and advocate other bros to be more generous

But then I got to thinking because of the posts that say "it's just another $10 or the price of of a taxi ride ect

and then I thought about what it means to me

OK - wind back a few years

When I first came to LOS I came on a low wage because at the time I wanted to experance the place - Ok since then i fell in love/hate with it and now call it my "home"

But my wages where 30,000 Baht per month

No  problem

But a short time with a girl at 1000 B is ONE DAYS WAGES

Cmore (thank you) lets say is a average Bro and earnes around 5000 per day so he is paying 20% of a day wages

For me to take a girl long time was 2 days wages and for cmore 40% of ONE DAYS WAGES

Here in Phuket the average Thai man will get his short time for 250 B

Do we label him a cheap charlie - no because he EARNS LESS

So what I am trying to say is perhaps I should be less a cheap charlie But can we berate all for what they pay based on money alone --  I think not

Based on my daily wage then I was paying BIG BUCKS and for some its a mere 2 or 3 hours wages

Everyone is different guys --- as are the Girls - Some will not accept and some will

This may be influanced by what they feel is good money or not

The Farm Girl from Isan who can feed her famliy on 5000 B per month may well be happy to earn 10% of that amount in 1-2 hours as that is her goal in life - the other might sniff at 2000 B as it is only 10% of what they need for there goal in life

So good - I have revised my (I am happy price) upwards a little - Thanks for helping me see different - but I still have a problem for people shitting on others because they pay less

I hope my ramblings make a little sence


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Posted on: 11:52 am on Sep. 21, 2002
whitespider
CJ - you have my wholehearted support on this one.

I have gone a little "quiet" over the last couple of days but "you know who" has managed to bore the pants off me with his outdated attitudes. Like another poster said (sorry I can't remember who) I never agree a price up front and have never been asked to (I don't do ST - too busy working daytime) and I just pay them as they are leaving. I've no idea whethere they are always "happy" though some have made their pleasure quite apparent.

One thing that intrigues me here is the percentage of Bro's who really are "sex tourists". I know a lot of you live in LOS and also that many, like myself and Dave, come on business but like to have some fun while we're there - heck I think a lot of us even LIKE Thailand and ALL it has to offer. I find the idea of "sex tourism" (travelling to LOS for nothing but) rather sad - I can certainly think of two posters who appear to fit this category - like you say guys you can get "it" at home so why come - sounds like Svay Pak is a better place for you. To compare paid sex in LOS to what you get in Europe or the USA is crazy - whatever you might argue it just isn't the same.


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Posted on: 12:51 pm on Sep. 21, 2002
     

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