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DeeDee
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When a high educated person employed in a multinational firm in Europe or the US gets an opportunity to move to a business unit in e.g. Bangkok how often would you say that his western salary will not decrease?
Thank You
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Posted on: 2:47 pm on June 26, 2004
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DeeDee
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Yes it does, but in general?
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Posted on: 3:05 pm on June 26, 2004
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Mr Alan
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Did you request the move, or did they ask you to go? Understand now?
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Posted on: 3:07 pm on June 26, 2004
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DeeDee
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Ahh, I understand where you are going now. Sorry for not making it clear that this post is hypothetical!! I still have reasons for asking but I’m not offered anything at all. I could write my reasons and I will if someone wants me to, but they are not essential to my question. I’m just asking about your opinions and experiences in GENERAL regarding this.
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Posted on: 3:39 pm on June 26, 2004
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Mr Alan
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Generally when one goes overseas for a major corporation, then the salary is maintained, plus they often pay for living expenses on top of that. This is for temporary assignments (2 years or less). This also assumes that they asked you to go overseas to fill a specific need with an expatriate (as opposed to a local), or as part of your career development (from their perspective, not yours).
If you apply for a job on your own initiative with your company at an overseas location, then you would normally be paid the prevailing wage in that country. This is sometimes difficult to do, because you would also need a work permit in that country, which your company might not be willing to pursue.
These days, such opportunities are rare, and corporations don't even like to do domestic relocations, much less international ones. With advances in technology, the need to relocate is much less important. Many people even work at home these days.
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Posted on: 3:56 pm on June 26, 2004
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bkkz
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Do these companies still give "hardship" allowances for 3rd world countries? 
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Posted on: 4:35 pm on June 26, 2004
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LocalYokul
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my co-workers who went back to their same job, but in UK, were quite upset about their financial future...
working here, they got allowance of all sorts, enough to live on, if you weren't a total King of Debauchery like most of us.
They're accomodation was also paid for in LOS, while back home, they had to viddy up themselves.
And the cost of living here is lower than UK, of course.
Some requested to be hangers-on and as such got offered wages that were sub-par to their UK office counterparts, but with the cost of living in LOS it was accceptable.
Unfortunately those guys/gals that are taking the lower wages to stick around LOS are driving down the demand and wages of local expats.
However, if you have middle management skills and speak/read/write the language there is a better demand, and better wages, because you are the go-between of the higher level managers who don't have a clue about local culture and/or language and don't want to.
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Posted on: 8:02 pm on June 26, 2004
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samthedog
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DeeDee
Look. Companies will pay what they can get away with??
As little as possible!
Are they going to pay you double because they like you??
NO!
Because you are the best??
Then demend a big salary, or go and work for another company!
They only pay what they feel they HAVE to pay under the circumstances!!
OK......I have made some assumptions here.
This is a complex subject, but I see alot of sh_t posted here on the forum, so I will do this for my benefit as much as yours.
In some instances (ok, not many I grant you) a manager can go to another country and receive less than the local management.
This tends not to be the case in Asia (at the moment) because the GDP and salaries are soooo different. (but with inflation and productivity rates in Asia increasinmg as they are compared with rich fat lazy bastards in Europe, I am not so sure how long this will continue!)
In some countries (south America for example) the salaries of top managers can be even higher than Europe.
Also Managers from one country can have a lower salary than the country they are working in....a Dutchman going to Switzerland, for example
Depends if its a multinational or an international company.
Depends how big the company is.
Depends on their defined expatriot policy.
Depends on if they are a "listed" company or a "family" business.
Depends on their profitability and profit margins.
Most companies are now only using expensive expats for short-term "hand-over" contracts. Like it or not, the management of a European or American Company feels more comfortable with the management it trusts, from the culture it trusts, especially with new investments and / or large investments in "riskier" countries.
If it was YOUR money being invested, would you give it to someone from your culture, with your beliefs, with your values?? I think so! You may need to pay a lot more for this. BUT ONLY FOR A TIME!
After a while, you realise that the management of the company can be trusted. They start to share the values of the parent.
Now stop paying the premium to the fat cat expatriates! Use local management!
Pay the local "going rate"!
DeeDee Posted on 2:47 am on June 27, 2004
When a high educated person employed in a multinational firm in Europe or the US gets an opportunity to move to a business unit in e.g. Bangkok how often would you say that his western salary will not decrease?
Thank You
Most "multinational" firms will take as view on that persons salary "back home". They will then make local adjustments depending on the cost of living in that country. There are a number of Companies that provide salary and cost of living comparison services.
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"high educated person employed in a multinational firm in Europe or the US"
Would only be offered the job if they needed his skills. He/she would command a high salary!
"would you say that his western salary will not decrease?"
No, the salary would not decrease, but the portion of the salary calculated as needed to live in Bangkok would be reduced, because the cost of living is a fraction of that to live in, say Paris.
BK,
most companies no longer pay "hardship allowance". It is looked on as an "overseas allowance" to pay for such things as mortgages etc. back in the home country.
These are my experiences "in general" working for various international and multinational companies around the world aver the last 11 years, but there is not much "in general" really, just depends on who you choose to work for, and what you can bring to the party.
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Posted on: 9:19 pm on June 26, 2004
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jack attack
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DeeDee,
I have never heard of a multinational company that wants to move an employee to a place like Bangkok, asking them to take a reduction in pay. In most cases, they either really need the person there and the result is pay what it takes or the big wigs have already considered what the employee makes and calculated that it fits the level they are willing to pay in the new station.
If the employee requests a move it will be different even if the company can really use a person with particular skills. As mentioned by others, the local salary levels would have to be taken into consideration before a company could agree to a move.
As for education levels, I know of many local Thais with MBA's from US or European schools and several years experience that are making BT 60,000 per month. This is a LONG way from the US and EU levels.
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Posted on: 12:41 am on June 27, 2004
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