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nokna
falling in love?.
easy to say don't do it.

i'm the last person to comment on this subject,having spent much money on returning to LOS to see my baby.
she has tore my life apart and things will never be the same for me again.

i miss her so much and want to be with her so much,but it will not happen.

i envy those people who have made a good connection and settled down with a good thai woman.
i wish i was with you.


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Posted on: 3:17 pm on Sep. 27, 2002
zzzZ
Ok, this thread is dying a slow death.  What happened to all the "love" out there?  Last I remember, me, cmore, balls, and others were off to LOS to see their TG's and that was basically the end of this thread!!!

Well, I got back 9 days ago, and guess what???  I'm flying back out again on Thursday!!!  Can't wait.    Will any of you guys still be there???

I had a great trip a couple of weeks ago.  Did some work (the reason for going) and went to Hua Hin on the weekend.   Found out my TG was pregnant, which was a bit of a bombshell to say the least.... yes, yes, I am the father (I'll do a test any way).   My TG is dead set on having it even though I live 10,000 miles away and only visit once every 6 weeks.....  whats a guy like me to do now????

I'm obviously pretty smittin with this TG, and feel she is too.  No warning signs whatsever that she has ever been insincere  (and God, with 10 years of going to LOS and all that I've read, I've had my back up).   Still, I am now facing a LT committment and it is quite serious for only knowing the TG for 4 months...

There are also other "factors" on my side that complicate just marrying the girl or something.  She is cool with that too...

So,  Cmore, what was the final result of your trip????  Looking forward to seeing this thread pick up again...


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Posted on: 4:44 pm on Oct. 7, 2002
Ballsburstin
zzzzZ,

Wow, you've bit off a hunk this time, I'd say. Makes my story pale by comparison. Was thinking the same thing about this thread just kinda peterin' out. I've posted some anecdotes from my trip on some of the other threads, maybe oughta do more of that here, for the sake of the bro's. I know cmore is down in the dumps, so not sure if he wants to hear about "love and happiness" at the moment.

But I do have a few tidbits to post, including window shopping for wedding gowns, being treated like a customer, etc., but I'll drop 'em here when I get a bit of time in the next day or so.

Hope your TG is really carrying your baby, but that should be easy to find out, provided you want to plunk down money for RH factor, or DNA screening   Sure puts a spin on things though. Will be VERY interested to hear about the outcome of your next trip. Maybe you can send us some FR's while in-country?

All the best,

- Balls


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Posted on: 5:40 pm on Oct. 7, 2002
zzzZ
Sure Balls, will keep you posted for sure.   Never a dull moment in LOS, huh?  



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Posted on: 6:04 pm on Oct. 7, 2002
cmore
Hey guys, glad to hear from you both. I'm doing much better brother Balls and am looking forward to reading your post about Love and Happiness. I could use some of that right about now.                                                                                                                                                                          Brother Z I guess congratulations are in order. I'll bet you'll make a great dad. I know things must be moving forward pretty fast for you but as long as you're happy and there is still no sign of that other shoe dropping yet then do what makes you happy.                                                                                                                                                                         I guess you missed my thread in the field reports section called Return of the Cmore. It explains everything. I'm getting there guys, don't worry. Life goes on. Anyway I'm very happy that things are working out for you both. I'll keep good thoughts for you and your ladies. Peace    


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Posted on: 6:54 pm on Oct. 7, 2002
Oaktoad
"Having my baby"  oldest way in the world to hook a guy in ...

Some Brit said years ago "a man marrying a woman with child might as well shit in his hat and wear it" ..

That is why I had a vasectomy a long time ago.. some of you guys should think about it ..

Choices are once she is pregnant, abort or keep. If you keep then if you are a MAN then you will support that kid until about age 18 ..  of course when it is a TG and her baby that means you get to support her family as well ...

do a pregnancy check to make sure it is yours .. too many TG's have their T bf on the side to take a chance .. even a bloodtest might be enough??

Sorry to sound so cynical, but you guys who are not more careful .. what are you thinking .. the world needs another mouth to feed?? there is some overwhelming need for you to reproduce???

All that said, mixing in some Farang blood out to strenghten the gene pool in Thailand  ;-)


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Posted on: 7:20 pm on Oct. 7, 2002
zzzZ
Yo Oaktoad, I agree with most of what you are saying, man.  I had serious thoughts about her trying to "hook" me, just don't know.  But what security does she get having a baby with a guy that is 10,000 miles away?  For all she knows I could piss off and she's stuck holding the bag for many years to come.   But, conspiracy theories are around for a reason...

Will certainly do a test.  Keep in mind that my TG has NO family whatsoever, so no one to support apart from her.  She's BKK born and raised, and university graduated.  Perhaps it is a way of being secure and not alone, or something, who knows..

We actually were careful apart from 2 mistakes out of probably 100 times.  And yeah, I know... it only takes once..

Going back to have a serious heart to heart to make sure the right thing is done, whatever that may be.  

And I think a vasectomy  is a pretty damn good idea... why didn't I think of that before!  

Cmore, I'll go catch up on your thread.  Doesn't sound good though.. and I'm sorry to hear it already...  



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Posted on: 7:28 pm on Oct. 7, 2002
Ballsburstin
Bro's

Vasectomies are easy and cheap. Had mine 10 years ago, and still feelin' spiffy!

I think Oaktoad's apprehension is not cynicism, especially given the way things operate in LOS. Here's a related story, which underscores his point:

I chatted with a waitress friend over at a beer bar near Nana Hotel. She's a real sweetheart, college educated, late 20's. Then she told me that some Danish dude asked her if she wanted to have his baby, this after she'd only met the guy once. She was considering it, as this seemed to be a great way out. What she hadn't considered was why would this dude ever take possession, let alone support the little tyke, given their brief encounter.  I pointed this out to her, and suggested that the only reasonable way for this to work was for him to marry her first, and then think about kids later. This seemed like a novel idea, and given her education, it surprised me. When I really pressed her, I got the impression that she was willing to suspend her disbelief in the hopes of a long shot.

So my conclusion was: Thai girls are wired for motherhood and nurturing in the same way that most of the other (very sweet) ladies I've known in Asia. I also think that this lady equate kids with money, love, marriage, happily-ever-after, etc. And in LOS, where marrying a farang can mean all of that, if only for a short while, there was a fatalistic sense in this lady's mind that the request to "have my baby" meant all that. Frankly, I think the guy was bullshitting her just to have sex sans condoms -- it just didn't make sense, given the way Westerners think. But again, the key here is how she perceived it.

I know of one other Thai lady who recently had an abortion, so they do opt for that too. So I'd tread carefully Brother zzzzZ, this route is fraught with "lions, and tiger, and bears, oh my!"

-- Balls



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Posted on: 8:09 pm on Oct. 7, 2002
Ballsburstin
Brother zzzzZ,

Just had another very cynical thought, my apologies in advance (Why do I have such jai dam? Buddha is clearly frowning on me at this moment.): if tests prove that you aren't dad, then you'll know more than you need to about the details of your relationship. I have a reason for saying this, but I'll hold that for a follow-up post later in this thread ...

- Balls


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Posted on: 8:22 pm on Oct. 7, 2002
zzzZ
thanks Balls...
i have to say, quite honestly, i would be shocked if i wasn't the father.   i am really, really sure in this case.  there is no way she has been butterflying since i met her.. but in Thailand things aren't always what they seem..   tests will be done....


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Posted on: 8:52 pm on Oct. 7, 2002
     

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