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kaisersoldaten
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I still have not figured out how conquer Jet Lag. I am day 4 of being home and I am still messed up. I think the depression has something to do with it. When you go to LOS, you do not care because you are too busy f_cking. When you have come home to all the bullshit, that compounds the problem.
Any homeopathic or practical remedies?
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Posted on: 11:34 pm on June 15, 2003
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Smegma
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I just ignore it. I just behave as per the local time of the place where I am from the moment I arrive. Owrsy case scenario is that I don't sleep for say 30+ hours on the first one day. When I go to slepp then after such a long time at the normal local hour, I am so tired that I can sleep and wake up rested, and from there on, I carry on.
My problem if any would be one day being tired when I would not want to, because the opposite: not being able to sleep when I want to, is no problem as I have plenty of things to do, and the only reason I sleep is not tbe tired at a later time, and not because I like it.
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Posted on: 12:09 am on June 16, 2003
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Kaisersoldaten...
You say you only get it in one direction... I have heard somewhere that travelling eastwards (i.e. flying west to east) is the most common way to get jet lag. Ý
I get it going to Asia.... but am fine coming back to Europe.
Fine going to the states, jet lagged as hell when I get home.
I have tried one natural remedy called something like "melatonin"... it did absolutely nothing for me, except make my bank balance $20 less. Ý
All the practical things, like staying awake etc... also don't work for me.
I've bitten the bullet now and am going to be taking a few sleeping pills with me from now on.
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Posted on: 9:07 am on June 16, 2003
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Arramsey
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I don't know if this could be a solution for others or whether it works only for me .
First an explanation - even though I have flown for 45 years now and in the last 9 years probably about 30 times a year I still get extreme claustrophobia whenever I set foot into an airplane . My solution has been to make sure I get a window seat , get into my seat as soon as possible , buckle up and promptly go to sleep .
It does help that I can sleep anywhere , in any position , at any time , with the world crashing around me and for however long I want .
So I sleep through the whole flight and when I get to my destination :-
(1) If it is night time there I check into the hotel , have something to eat , a shower and am off to sleep again . Wake up the next morning with absolutely no jet lag .
(2) If it is daytime I just go through the day ( having fully rested on the flight ) , have a late night and go to sleep . Wake up the next morning with absolutely no jet lag .
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Posted on: 9:49 am on June 16, 2003
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BlueNote
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My approach to conquering jet lag is similar to Arramsey. I always ask for a window seat. Once the plane takes off, I set my watch to the destination's local time and sleep accordingly. If it's not time to sleep, then I will take short naps.
I do have a problem in that sometimes I do not wake up until most of the passengers have departed.
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Posted on: 12:30 pm on June 19, 2003
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bucksfun
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My approach is always to fly business class (you can get some great deals these days). ÝKnock back quite a few drinks at the airport lounge, then food and a few drinks on board, then I find I fall asleep really easily. Ý
Having a decent amount of space around you I think is the surest way to getting a decent amount of sleep on board, then you don't feel like death when you return.
I guess this solution isn't for everyone but it works for me. ÝIt doesn't even have to be that expensive (I used to fly EVA Evergreen deluxe which I thought was quite cheap).
Flight timing is another factor, I tend to try wherever possible to pick flights which arrive in both Asia and back in the UK either in the afternoon or evening, then there isn't too long until a normal sleeping time.
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Posted on: 3:10 am on June 20, 2003
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Skip
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Dearest Kaiser,
Very sorry to hear of your depression brother. You have my deepest sympathy, honestly. ÝSkip has a fine remedy in his apothecary for this, which he discovered, quite by accident, upon his first trip to LOS. Skips method will save you far more money than bucksfun too. Though if I had it I'b be using mine alongside him in Biz class but skipping the cocktails, the alcohol is NOT kind to travellers.
MELATONIN ~ Ring any bells? Perhaps?
It's a natural chemical substance produced by, and used within our brains, to help us regulate our biological clocks, as such it is very good when used by travellers to re-adjust to a new time zone. Also it is very effective as a natural type of sleep inducement.
It stormed on the consumer market a decade ago. At this time I tried it and was not at all impressed even disliking its subtle yet minimal affects on me. Flash forward to OCT. 2002 when I am nervous in anticipation of being corralled in a plane seat for 14 hours and loooking for anything to ease this agony. Everyone who's greater than 6'1" knows what I refer to.
Anyway, I discovered a timed release form of MELATONIN at a local health food store and thought it would be worth giving it another shot. In my case I wanted to attempt sleep on the plane and deduced that an eyemask when used with this might do the trick. Results were spectacular! Fantastic!
In my case I avoid all caffeines prior to departure, and even on a good nights sleep I've walked on the plane at 0900 hrs, dropped a pill, slipped on the mask on and simply drifted away within a half hours time. And to put this in context, I am one of those types who find it nearly impossible to nap during daylight hours. Naturally the mask is Ývery, very important part. In Kaisers case, and while being home I think you would be fine just dropping a tab 30 mins. prior to bedtime.
Note: you are not at all groggy or incapable of waking should you need to switch flights for instance, you can even take it within just a few hours of your waking time and still be both alert and refreshed.
Yet! The best part I have found is I am SO rested from this experience that I have (in 4 trips now) hit the ground running at both ends of the flight and seem to be in a state of near instant adaptation to the newly disembarked time zone. ÝAwesome!
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Posted on: 5:38 am on June 20, 2003
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Skip, could you please elaborate on what the "time realease form" of melatonin is? ÝOr what I ask for in the pharmacy.
I don't know what kind of malatonin it was I tried... they were just regular pills in a regular blister pack... but they didn't work at all for me (I only slept 8 hours out of 96  ). ÝBut I'd like to try this time release one.
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Posted on: 3:11 pm on June 20, 2003
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Dave
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hmmmmm interesting.
maybe same product and two very different experinces.
I have some melatonin but never tried. I always carried them with me with the intention of using them on the first night in the new time zone. But doing what some others do i.e try to mentally adjust by eating and "thinking" in the new zone seems to work for me.
But snoozing on the plane after a few drinks might be helping
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Posted on: 3:19 pm on June 20, 2003
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I'm beginning to wonder if we all have the same experiences of Ýjetlag.
Ok, for me... last trip... leave here Friday afternoon... arrive BKK early Staurday morning. ÝAt most had 2 hours sleep on the plane. ÝGet to the hotel, shower change and from that moment on, I fall into the BKK time-zone for meals and sleep etc. ÝI don't go to bed even though I am shattered. ÝHave a busy day walking around BKK ...
Come midnight I am like the waking-dead.. fall into bed... fall straight asleep... sleep like a baby for 2 whole hours then wake up WIDE awake.
No matter what I do I can't fall back asleep.
Sunday... busy day, very tiring, no naps .... sunday night... same thing, exhausted... 2 hours sleep and I am WIDE awake.
Monday - same as Sunday...
Tuesday - same again, till I almost collapse of total exhaustion and go to a pharmacy to get benzodiazepam (sp??) sleeping pills. Ý
In the best instance my jetlag gets gradually better... like after 3 days I am maybe up to 4 hours sleep per night.
For 3 or 4 days I literally can not sleep more than 2-3 hours per night. ÝI HATE it sooooooo much.
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Posted on: 3:58 pm on June 20, 2003
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