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nokna
i know I am being stupid here but..
my Mum has just got a computer and she asked why it was called a mouse?

i have no f*cking idea, anyone know the truth or have an idea?


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Posted on: 5:03 pm on Nov. 7, 2003
Bok Hah
Nokna, I work in IT, have done for 20 years, but have no real recollection of the reason. Possibly the fact that they have the cord ( like a tail), and are shaped ( sometimes) like the rodent in question?
A bit like sugarmice.
Probably totally wrong....



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Posted on: 5:10 pm on Nov. 7, 2003
GATOR420
Wow Bok, you are correct, but I have to ask.. What do you do in IT?

nokna, your answer...

In 1964, the first prototype computer mouse was made to use with a graphical user interface (GUI), 'windows'. Engelbart received a patent for the wooden shell with two metal wheels (computer mouse U.S. Patent # 3, 541, 541) in 1970, describing it in the patent application as an "X-Y position indicator for a display system." "It was nicknamed the mouse because the tail came out the end, " Engelbart revealed about his invention. His version of windows was not considered patentable (no software patents were issued at that time), but Douglas Engelbart has over 45 other patents to his name


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Posted on: 5:54 pm on Nov. 7, 2003
Ballsburstin
GATOR420,

Where did Engelbart work at the time he patented the thing? In the early 90's, while working with a consulting team, we ported the PARC Xerox windowed system (which was the predecessor to the Mac OS) to IBM's OS/2. PARC had very early mouse support, and a user interface that was many years ahead of it's time (and in many ways still better architected that some I've seen) so hence my question.

- Balls


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Posted on: 6:19 pm on Nov. 7, 2003
GATOR420
More info on the subject...

Throughout the '60s and '70s, while working at his own lab (Augmentation Research Center, Stanford Research Institute), Engelbart dedicated himself to creating a hypermedia groupware system called NLS (for oNLine System). Most of his accomplishments, including the computer mouse and windows, were part of NLS.

In 1968, a 90-minute staged public demonstration of a networked computer system was held at the Augmentation Research Center -- the first public appearance of the mouse, windows, hypermedia with object linking and addressing, and video teleconferencing.

Douglas Engelbart was awarded the 1997 Lemelson-MIT Prize of $500, 000, the world's largest single prize for invention and innovation. In 1998, he was inducted into the National Inventors Hall of Fame.

Currently, Douglas Engelbart is the director of his company, Bootstrap Institute in Fremont, California, which promotes the concept of Collective IQ. Ironically, Bootstrap is housed rent free courtesy of the Logitech Corp., a famous manufacturer of computer mice.


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Posted on: 10:33 pm on Nov. 7, 2003
Vancouver Jay
From the same page (apparently) that Gator found:

"Throughout the '60s and '70s, while working at his own lab (Augmentation Research Center, Stanford Research Institute), Engelbart dedicated himself to creating a hypermedia groupware system called NLS (for oNLine System). Most of his accomplishments, including the computer mouse and windows, were part of NLS."

IIRC, the Xerox PARC set-up also included a page-view monitor -- one that was in "portrait" orientation rather than "landscape" which became the standard. I think it's a shame that didn't catch on, although the impact on multimedia from not have a monitor that emulates a TV is incalulable.


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Posted on: 10:42 pm on Nov. 7, 2003
GATOR420
VJ, Although I may know the answers, I do like to quote the facts from sources other than myself.

Balls, the mouse was developed by Englebert but it was adopted and developed further by the PARC team.

Some of the PARC team invented ethernet, and left to form 3com. Another team within PARC developed Postscript, and they left to form Adobe. WYSIWYG word processing was developed there as well, and the developer was hired away by Microsoft to develop Word (oddly enough, he had to dumb it down to work on the command-line-only MS-DOS....)

PARC also developed such things as object-oriented programming, browseable and resizeable windows, and the laser printer, which was really the only thing they profited from out of all those inventions. Xerox was basically a company run by copier guys, and while they started PARC and told the members to invent really cool stuff, they didn't have a clue what to do with it when it was done. So, the guys who invented it got frustrated and left to form their own companies. The Alto II, the commercial version of the in-house Alto network, was way too expensive to be commercially viable.

All in all, PARC is a classic example of what happens when a group of brilliant scientists has to answer to a larger group of suits and bean counters.

It's a shame Xerox didn't have the vision to see the future for what it was. They must kick themselves in the ass every day over that fact.


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Posted on: 8:50 am on Nov. 8, 2003
     

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