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madfrog
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yeah...some girls look pretty enought with clothe on, then when they undress you discover the absence of tits, the issan road map on their belly and other not so nice details and well....you no longer feel like f***ing them....hard to blame the customer in this situation, and making them pay in advance is a dirty trick IMHO
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:42 pm on Jan. 15, 2013
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Valetta
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EZ,
When I visit an oily massage parlour I am always interested in having FS,but only good FS.I would rather have no FS than a bad one.I never want a girl to give me a hand job because I can give myself a better one than she can.
I try to choose a girl whom I think will give good FS,and mostly I am successful.On occasion I will tell the girl I am not happy with her and do not want FS.Mostly this results in a big improvement in her attitude,and FS does take place.
Of course if FS does not occur the girl will say the customer simply wanted just a massage.She will never say the customer declined FS because he was unhappy with her attitude.
Surely any business providing services has to accept that not all of the customers who enter its premises will want to buy all those services.To insist that customers must buy,whether happy or not, will result only in some customers simply refusing to enter at all.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 3:29 pm on Jan. 15, 2013
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ezmassagebkk
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Hi Valetta, I understand from your point of view but we have customers who do not want any form of special in the first place and there are quite a few of them. Thanks for feedback.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:06 am on Feb. 3, 2013
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newcastle1900
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I visited EZ 2 recently and was recommended a new lady Atom “young and good service". What a crock of crap. No BJ covered or otherwise pointing to her lips ….jeb, only missionary position refused to move off her back and then Jeb again after 5 minutes. She couldn’t get me off so I wanted to wank off on her tits… no no, on her body …no no. Pissed off I showered headed down to complain. Nobody at the desk, looked in the back room, nothing but a menagerie of listless bodies. Left totally feeling I had been ripped off having paid my 2000 upfront.
The PR will no doubt reply with the usual “we are sorry to hear blah blah blah “. No you are not so please don’t bother with the usual list of excuses. You say you changed your payment policy to protect the girls from punters abusing the system, very admirable indeed but who the f**k protects the customers from your staff abusing the system. Answer: nobody and I have no doubt punters now get ripped off more often than the girls used to.
This girl should not have been working in any P4P shop until she had been properly trained and knows what is expected of her and she would have been if she worked anywhere else.. You know what I really don’t blame her, she probably needs the money. I blame the shitty management of EZ who time and time again take punters money under false pretences. Just read the blogs on other forums and you will be aware of how often this happens. Shame on you EZ.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 1:50 am on Feb. 5, 2013
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madfrog
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If we dont want to see all the oily places become rip-off places like EZmassage, we need to vote with our feet and make as many of our fellow punters aware of what is their modus operandi. Nothing more...
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:27 am on Feb. 5, 2013
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stayer11
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I have been lucky enough to live and work here for many years and from my perspective, I believe that the quality of service in most oilies has deteoriated over the past few years. In saying this, I am not into the PSE experience - more looking for a satisfying time with a lady of your choice who delivers a solid performance without trying to drain you of every last drop of cum that you have.
The number of times I have left an oily (my preference) without having finished, feeling that I have been short changed has increased. Over the weekend, I had four sessions and three of these were well less than satisfying. The first session, the girl had her period - this really annoys me that someone is allowed to work with the rags on. Second and third experience was similar to the Ez session described above and the last one was great. So a 1 in 4 and yet a few years ago it would have been a 3 out of 4 or 4 out of four great sessions
If you look at the timing of what I perceive to be the start of the downturn it is around the time that the up front fee began to gain momentum and a change in the business model - focussing on specific ethnic groups rather than the masses - I am not being racist or discriminating but honestly believe that a many establishments are trying to attract a specific clientelle over being diverse in their approach.
I cannot speak about the soapies as I have really been an oily person and only been to Annies (many occasions) and generally find that my experience with Annies is in the main good.
I agree that voting with your feet is a solution but based on my experience getting refunds is very rare - in the last 10 "walk outs" I have only been successful in one and the reason that that happened was that the girl had not even taken her clothes off. The range of excuses the girls are coming up with is increasing, the "arn't you finished yet" just after you get going, pain, pain etc. your too big (yeh I wish), lying about time, sores in her mouth and so on just ruin the experience and mood.
There seems to be a growing trend and I personally cannot readily see a change occurring in the short to medium term - great pity as this place was great from a P4P perspective.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 5:37 pm on Feb. 5, 2013
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Goatscrot
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In total agreement with Stayer. Over the last few years I have seen service levels decline and prices increase in all facets of the P4P scene. As cost have risen service levels have gone down. The other night I was having a beverage outside the Nana ST hotel on the second floor. The average time a "couple" was in the ST room was 20 min, and that would include two showers.
I walked out on 8 of the last 10 freelancers I was with because performance was awful. No kissing, no fingering, your too big for BJ, jep, etc. I explain to them beforehand that I expect them to service me like a porn star or like a boyfriend they love. When I get up put my clothes on and give the 100 baht and leave the room unsatisfied, I normally get a blank stare, or "Why you no happy?"
Of course the low unemployment rate in Thailand and increased salaries for "regular" jobs is part of the reason as well. Working girls are pretty much the dregs these days. Girls with any sense and who speak decent English are working on dating sites. And of course there is the late night disco scene, which is pretty good, but still quite expensive as the gals expect you to pay for their drinks and then remunerate 2-4k for services. For me getting home at 5am is not an option.
I was a bit floored at how opposite to our Western way of thinking about competition this is. There are FAR more oilies than there were a two years ago. One would think that the level of service would increase as businesses would want to attract more customers. In fact it has been the opposite. The "lookers" have all gone to parlors where they can get away with bad service, CBJ, etc and what is left at the PSE places is older gals who have to offer those types of services to stay employed. The lookers who are still working at places like Snow White can use their looks as leverage with the owners and say, "If you make me do that I will leave and take my regulars with me." Sad state of affairs and one that I think will continue as well.
Of course the blame lies at the foot of the punters. If all demanded good service and walked out when they did not get it, things would get a bit better, but that will not be the case.
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:17 pm on Feb. 5, 2013
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madfrog
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When confronted with a particularly useless girl, a technic that work sometime is to go downstairs with just a towel on you and demand another girl who is not retarded.
Work especially good if there is a group a japanese guy in the lobby...LOL
And sometime seing you going downstair your "useless" girl will all of sudden start to perform...
Make sure you take your wallet along with you or it might "get lost" while you are downstair arguing with the mamasan.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 10:15 pm on Feb. 5, 2013
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Edge
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I'm not sure if I could do the frog but I agree with the vote with your feet. Poor service, poor quality girls means do not go back. You can't believe the photoshopped pics anymore, can't expect last trips honey to be there and can't expect the same shop to have any quality next time you go. Where do I go? Well I read this forum and listen to recommendations and go there!
Keep the good girls in the news guys, I need you.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:33 pm on Feb. 5, 2013
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