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Hi Papa,
Great idea,... us guys that travel for work also to MNL will enjoy. But it's not Thailand and won't be easy.
Has to be in Makati at Burgos St. area. You have probably seen the place. There are 4 bars there owned by one guy ( Flamingoes, Mogambo, Bandodo.... ) Mostly better managment with out the pushy att.
Theres a french guy ( Charlie ) I know that has relations there and has a bar of his own. You can get in touch with him thru his site http://www.chicfun.com.
Waiting to fall in line.
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Posted on: 4:12 am on Nov. 29, 2005
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edenpapa
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thanks joshw
Any help really appreciated
see you
marc
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Posted on: 5:42 am on Nov. 29, 2005
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ColoradoGuy
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FWIW, I think this is a great idea (opening an Eden in Manila). It would be a valuable addition to the Manila scene. Plus, I think the Filipina girls can be a little 'nastier' sexually - and I mean that in a good way. 
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Posted on: 10:52 pm on Nov. 29, 2005
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nndavid
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Edenpapa,
Good luck with the venture- hope it works out.
But, if you think the TIT effect, or things are sometimes illogical or inconsistent in Thailand, then welcome to the circus! The Phil sets the standard here for no set standards at all!
Also, be prepared for shakedowns bcoz: 1. it's a new place; and 2. it's different from other P4P venues. But you probably know all this already, but just a reminder!
Finally, unlike the last poster, I don't think the Filipina's are nastier in sex, even in a good way. Lots of baggage, mostly from Catholicism. Anal is very uncommon and anything approaching S&M is even more so. But amybe I'm just inexperienced in these areas, but this is impression. You'll have some searching, and training, to do, but do-able!
Cheers!
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Posted on: 12:35 am on Dec. 1, 2005
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dirty guru
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I dont expect a reply.
But I caution marc (given the political background of movers and shakers operating) in power. (manila)
This club, has in my view a rightful place, in the Thai p4p.
Perhasp your formula is succussful, but with choking "overbearing" threats that make you view elsewhere.?
I would, alter slightly the formula.
Go lower key, but utilise the things we all love, and work on the things we dont.
Forinstance, personally, I am a great Fan of Eden takeaway, and occonsionally spoil myself.
Its 3000 baht, 10pm -6am
but coming off a flight hungry for raw hard core with girls that will do it all, so what?
Its great value!
I believe I am connected well enough (ie have 300 names of top 10% beer bar girls in pattayas phone numbers) and understand the likes and dislikes on all sides enough to qualify to comment.
Marc, I believe with the right application.
Like lolitas in Pattaya expanding from Bangkok, Pattaya is a place waiting to happen.
Here is my insight.
Get (a grade dirty girls)
Its all take away.
S/t 2000.......2 hours
L/t 4500.........16 hours
You get 200 stunners on the books
Its "eden quality sex"
Watch it take off.
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Posted on: 7:58 pm on Dec. 12, 2005
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edenpapa
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hi Guys
i am afraid there will never be an Eden Club in Manila
just received this mail from a close friend leaving there for a long time :
Salut Marc,
J'ai parle a XXXXXXXXX de ton projet a Manille.
I DID TALK TO XXXXX ABOUT YOUR MANILA'S PROJECT
Il n'est pas interesse a cause du danger.
HE ISN'T INTERESTED, TOO DANGEROUS
Ce genre d'etablissement est completement interdit et meme des protections importantes ne pourraient le proteger.
THIS KIND OF PLACE IS TOTALLY ILLEGAL AND EVEN HIGH PROTECTIONS CAN NOT HELP YOU
Il a de bonnes relations mais dans le cadre de bars habituels qui sont rentres dans les moeurs du pays.
HE HAS VERY GOOD RELATIONS BUT ONLY FOR REGULAR BUSINESS BARS WHICH IS ACCEPTED OVER THERE
Amicalement
FRIENDSHIP
XXXXXXXX
So Guys,
ANY IDEAS ABOUT AUSTRALIA ??????
see you
marc
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Posted on: 12:12 am on Dec. 15, 2005
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Oldspice47
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Amsterdam? Business is legal there. <So you pay tax too : ( >
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Posted on: 1:37 am on Dec. 15, 2005
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MickTheKick
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Hey marc,
when it comes to new ventures I have a suggestion:
What I don't really like with Eden is the lack of sociability (both with lads and lassies) and the strong timely focusing on hard core business. Yes, I understand that exactly this is why so many blokes like your place which is a nicely profiled business venue in that respect. But maybe they just don't know any other type of hardcore theme park anyway. But there is another type...
This other way is done in the German FKK (s.b.) places and also in some Brazilian Sauna's. The basic idea or difference to Eden is the fact that there is a lot of action going on right in the public. Imagine a huge Spa type of place with one or more bar areas, some relaxing couch zones, a blue movie cinema and pool area etc.. All visitors have to undress and shower first and only wear a towel later, all girls are fully or semi naked and it's all like a big big sex party with flirting contacting chatting fondling and f***ing up to the real hard core action all taking place right there in the public or - if you prefer some intimacy at a certain point of arousal - in some of the adjacent private rooms which are part of the premises. It's common practice to close a deal after the non-binding (555) activities by giving/receiving a BBBJ and then go on however and wherever you want.
The good thing in these places is a) the relaxed socializing  and b) the common determination to go nasty in the public...  
Maybe BKK's Gentlemen's Clubs are something like that, but I have never been there. Seems to me they are Nippon embassies more than gentlemen's places and most of the Japs in my places (NEP, CS) are ehhh well...
The German FKK business model goes like this:
Entrance fee with no time limit: 60 Euro (yes, quite a bit of money but surely worth it yet for the eye candy and low key activities),
each pop (30 min. allowance, well this is Germany) : 50 Euro,
CIM or anal: additional 50 Euro
As far as I know, the girls are just there, they don't get paid and they don't pay. Oh wait, could be they even have to pay the same entrance fee, not sure about this...
Keep in mind that this is a German business model based on German costs and benefits.
What do you think Marc?
What do you think bro's?
Btw.: FKK = Frei-Körper-Kultur = Bare Body Culture = Nudism 
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Posted on: 3:48 am on Dec. 15, 2005
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