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guy4525
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I am Cambodian. I went to visit Cambodia for 10 days. I went to all the places that people on http://www.km11.com and wsg told me about. They turned out to be $10 AiDS infested girls.
I started going where the Japs, Chinese, and Cambodians with money went. I did not see any white people. Because I speak the language and look Chinese, I fit in. Foreigners would have been welcomed but most Americans are afraid to leave the Mutalay area.
I also had a driver for $25 a day.
I am NOT attacking Martini or you guys. I am NOt saying the girls there are ugly. (Kind of ugly-honest). I am saying that they looked scary and I was afraid to pick them up for fear of Aids.
So I filed this report with the WSG or an excerpt. The site is down now.
Now I am getting attacked on Wsg and http://www.km11.com as a moron who overpaid.
I know about the $10 girls--see my reports. I am just trying to give you more options.
1. I do not understand why km11 won't let me register to respond to the attacks.
I cannot respond on WSG because the site is down now/
2. Also, why are people offended when I put addresses and price rates.
Isn't that what you want? Don't you want a roadmap or guide to where the girls are and you can decide for yourself what you want to pay?
I mean if you can get girl at Casa for $40 and they tell me it's 50 no negotiation, isn't that something you would want to share with us all?
3. Finally, no one before me has ever posted a report on XO, Casa, Club 99.
The places you white guys go--K11, Martini--the locals do not even know about and won't even go. What does that tell you about this place?
If you enjoy my report, ask the people at http://www.km11.com why they do not want me to speak the truth?
Am I the Christ figure? I am getting crucified by the white Jews on http://www.km11.com who like Aids stricken Vietnamese sickly old hags?
Please read my report. Thanks.
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Here is what I wrote to http://www.km11.com with my report:
I could not respond to the attacks on me because I am
waiting for you to approve my registration.
Please post this response on your Nightlife Board as a
new topic "Lists of Escorts and Brothels by addresses
and prices" or call it "Response to P4P Attack":
I am guy #2. I want to respond to the attack on my
credibility. I just returned from Phnom Penh.
Here is a report of all the escorts and brothels by
streets and price ranges that I visited (obviously
there are more than the ones I visited):
A. High End Escort Service (These places run out of
girls by 12:00 midnight, except Casa which
is open until 3:00 a.m. and Holiday International
Manhattan Club)
1. Casa Hotel Night Club and Restaurant
No. 5 France Street 47 Near What Phnom
Girls arrive at 8:00 pm, all independent escorts with
one madameson
Vietnamese $67 a night ($50 if you rent a karoke room)
Chinese $150 a night
Cambodians $67 a night
(no negotiation on the prices)
Karoke room is $8 all night, girl is $7 plus tip of at
least $10. What you do is between each other,
no sex in the room. You can take her home for $50.
2. Club 99 No.
10 Street 252
Girls arrive at 8:00 p.m.
Cambodians girls
Vietnamese girls
One mademason
$70 a night (negotiated down to $60 a night)
3. Holiday International Manhattan Club
Street 84, off Monivong
Girls do not arrive until late at 1:00 a.m.
Vietnamese and Cambodian
They dance on the disco floor. Tell the waiter you
want to speak to the mademason. Tell her
who you want. $50 a night (I did not negotiate)
4. XO Club, No. 85 A, Street 163
By far the best looking girls, Vietnamese and
Cambodian. This is NOT an escort service. The
rooms are $8 an up a night. The girls are free but
expect a tip. You sing karoke and hug them.
They make money off the food and drinks. The girls
drink what you buy them. Many married
women work here to make ends meet. The girls and beer
girls will go home with you if they like
you. There is no pressure to go home with you.
If you want a girl right away, ask to see the
madameson. Girls are $70 to $100 a night.
See also the Yellow Pages under nightclubs and karoke.
"Karoke" is a code word for escort
service and places like XO.
B. Middle range escort services.
1. The Cambodian brothels are all located near the
Lucky Star Hotel No 14 Street 336. At night,
the brothel owners rent space at the hair salons.
When you drive by, the pimps will call you in.
The brothels are open during the day as well. You
have to knock on the doors. The girls are all
Cambodian. Prices are $10 to $25.
There are also girls that stand in groups of threes on
the street corners nearby.
2. The Vietnamese brothels (there are four of them)
are all located on Street 63 Sangkat Phsar
Thmei Ti 3. No. 40 is a brothel. During the day it
is a haircut shop. Knock on the door during
the day. The girls are $30 a night. You can
negotiate. I chose not to negotiated.
The girls at the brothels work harder to please you
than the independents at Casa, XO, and Club
99 because the pimps actually beat them up if you
complain. The girls at Casa, XO, and Club 99
do not have pimps or owe money.
C. Low end escorts
1. Martinis
2. The girls standing at night near the monument and
near What Phnom (over a 100)
I NEVER said that the girls were ugly or fat. No fat
people in Cambodia because they are all
malnourished. I said that I was AFRAID to pick them
up because they looked sickly, old, and
repulsive, I was afraid of catching AIDS. I knew
that the local Cambodians did not have the
money to pay for the girls at XO and Casa and that my
risk of AIDS were lowerer with the high
end escorts. That is why I chose the high end
escorts.
I never said that these girls were not pretty. There
are some. But I am just leery of 100 girls all
standing around for $10 a piece, some of whom looked
repuslive. It was just unprofessional. I feel more
comfortable going through an agency or middleman.
I am also Asian so not everyone looks exotic to me. I
was really turned off by the girls at the Martini's.
They looked old and very short in stature. I saw one
Eastern European fat girl. They all approached me. I
just said I was waiting for a friend and haven't
decided yet.
This was the ONLY time I ever saw any white guys,
except along the Mautalay.
D. U2
I do not know where to place U2. They charge $50-100 a
night but the girls look like the $10-25
a night. On my last night, they offered to let me
sleep with a television personality for $200 but I
did not have enough cash on me.
E. Moto taxis
All the moto taxis have their own connections. I
found one girl who worked as an escort on the
side through a moto driver. I paid $100 for the whole
day and night. No negotiation.
F. Heng Ly and the restaurants across the Japanese
Cambodian friendship bridge
There are beer girls here at night but you have to
wait until they get off work at 1:00 a.m. I didn't
feel like waiting.
Some of you will call me stupid. But I was looking
for quality. Many of you who call me stupid
never post any addresses or prices. You post the same
thing over and over again: Martinis, K11.
I kept my word.
I may post my experiences in the future. I also have
pictures. I hope you are much kinder to
these girls than you are to me.
I share my information freely with you because I know
that Americans tend to be more civilize
than the locals. Some of the girls told me stories
about showing up at a hotel room and finding 3
Cambodian guys and getting gangraped.
At night the rich kids called "Steives" ride in groups
of 4 on their moto bikes and kidnap and rape
ordinary girls off the street. Their parents get them
out of jail through bribery.
I did not experience any problems with the law, so I
do not know what your concerns are if your
intent is good clean consenusal adult fun.
You guys really psst me off. I did not see any white
guys at the places I went to. I did not find any of
this information on the net. The locals don't even
know about Martinis. What does that tell you?
I found places that the Chinese and Japs go when they
come to Cambodia. I found places because I can speak
Cambodian.
I do not know if I will post anything else. It seems
the more I tell the truth, the more I get crucified.
I told you guys that when the time comes, I will post
my experience. Unfortunately, I did not get to
Cambodia until the week of August 21.
But I have not found any other website that posts this
information. Plus I came back with the Yellow Pages
that lists all the clubs.
You can still visit your $10 escorts. I never said
don't. I just said that I am afraid to pick up those
girls.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:16 am on Sep. 11, 2003
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guy4525
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PS
The low end escorts go for $10 a night. By "100" I mean there are more than a 100 standing on the street at night.
Also, I did not do short time. I had the money so I took them to the hotel. I am sure short time is less--but I did not go there.
Again, I am not attacking you guys. I want to post something about Cambodia that has never been posted before--areas where most Americans have never beenn because they do not speak Cambodian, Chinese or Vietnamese.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 11:27 am on Sep. 11, 2003
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Dutch
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Your report is false though, I picked up a couple of girls from both Casa and Manhatten disco for $20 all night.
Your bitching about Martini's is probably becouse you look asian and therefore have to pay the covercharge from witch us falangs are excluded.
(Not that I aprove of any two tier pricing system but it helps keep the yaba crazed khmer out of the place)
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 6:52 am on Sep. 14, 2003
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Tom_Photographer
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hi guy4525...
I can confirm a lot of the general information given by you - but however the "price-thing" is depending on a lot of different aspects, you won't get a consens on that...not 100% and down to the $.
I just would like to ask you something: you posted your story on my website some days ago and wanted it to be published there. Nothing wrong with it, we are happy about contributors but you didn't give any comment or so, I didn't get it.
In case that you want to contribute a story about your P4P experience you are welcome if you can introduce to the topic and make it more like a FR. That's cause most of our readers are not familiar with such stuff - but interested I guess.
Grtx Tom
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 1:24 pm on Sep. 16, 2003
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pete325is
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guy4525,
I was at U2 not too long ago. The place seems straight as I don't see any mamsans or girls roaming around. Am I missing something over there? The place is not exactly a disco either as there are non-stop singers on stage with ear-deafening loud music.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 4:34 pm on Sep. 16, 2003
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Bow Wow
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I travelled to Cambodia, or as my friend likes to refer to the country "Scambodia" 5 months ago from LOS. Stayed only in Siam Reap for 5 nights.
Discovered many of the prostitutes that work in the brothels are actually from nearby Vietnam.
Went to the Martini nightclub, surprised to find myself one of only 6 other westerners inside at 11.30pm on a Friday night.
Ended up attracting the best looking girl in the joint. She and 3 other gals whom I danced with for approx 30 secs decided they would join me and my mototaxi driver (whom cost me US$7 a day 7am till midnight) for a drink at my table. They could not speak a word of english, so I had my driver ask their services and prices which began US$30 then after some bargaining dropped down to US$20.
Satisfied I then asked for my bill which came back alot higher than I expected. The sons of bitches charged me for these girls who now assume work for this club to sit down at my table with me.
Pissed off I took only the best looking one and rode back to my hotel US$5 (ceiling fan,non A/C) per night.
Back at my room she was trying to ask me for condom. Joking I shook my head no. She didn't even think twice and was ready to have some fun. I found this disturbing but had a great night with her "with" a condom.
Not sure if condoms are scarce or expensive in Cambodia. But I also think many of these girls do look sick. I don't know if its an AIDS related disease or from malnourishment. But get close enough to them it is obvious.
But we should all remember Guy4525 just because a girl looks healthy, clean and good enough to eat it doesn't always mean she is AIDS free. You can not judge people by the way they appear to you on the outside. It's whats inside that counts.
I also went to a brothel behind the Red Piano bar US$15 short time. My friend and I took a "room" the only thing which seperated us from each other was a flimsy bed sheet, everything was clearly heard.
While exploring the Angkor Temples(I found dissapointing) I had a policeman try and sell me his police badge for US$15, my friend struggling behind in the searing heat was asked too but at only US$5. Also had a policeman and young men pestering me at Poipet for money, after ignoring them and walking into the nearest A/C store. They eventually gave up and found somebody else to harass.
I found the food quite bad, often cooked with mosquitoes and other insects which hovered over the hot pots and pans then eventually died and fell in. But the bread was nice.
Another time my friend ordered a meal from a popular french restaurant which was supposed to be chicken, but halfway through he came across an unfamiliar bone. He instantly called the waiter, and demanded to know what the hell this was on his plate. Chicken the waiter reassured my friend. We both new this was a lie. We have both being eating chicken for years and we both haven't seen a bone of this type before. We suspect it was possibly rat or cat. A short heated argument with the manager ended up with both us paying only half the bill and leaving.
At the markets its best to go through first with your mototaxi driver show him what you want them have him go back and buy these items as he will only be charged regular price eg US$1 T-shirt or less. US$3 for falang and you can a tip to your driver
I was so happy to get out of Scambodia and my old legs back onto LOS soil, and I next headed straight for Pattaya.
Ahhhh, Pure Bliss.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:23 am on Sep. 17, 2003
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Bok Hah
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Guy4525 said "white Jews"
f*** off Guy
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:46 am on Sep. 17, 2003
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Holy Saint
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Hey guy4525,
I appreciate you posting the information that you accumulated through your travels. Something different is always better. I know there is always more going on than meets the eyes.
When anyone starts going up in price range, people get a little fidgety. I think most people go to Cambodia for the value of the services received in a general sense.
It looks like you are looking for some respect. I appreciate you posting your observations. I might even venture into those areas mentioned.
I think though, you'll have trouble gaining the respect of some of the others, because some might see your writing as offensive. Some of your writing sounds racist or whatever when you say Japs or whatever else you said. The tone of some of your writing was somewhat negative.
I am asian, and can see why others would be offended. But at the same time, I see the value of different experiences. I think you could become a valuable asset to this forum, but some others might not want to see the whole picture because whether you meant to or not, you might have offended people by your writing style.
So thanks for the info, and I hope it works out the best for all the brothers here and yourself.
Good luck.
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 2:17 pm on Sep. 17, 2003
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Ballsburstin
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Bow Wow,
Funny, you got the same "policeman trying to sell you his badge scam." We got that at a smaller temple nearby Angkor. Interesting thing was, our driver was a policeman part of the time (also used to work customs at the airport), and was really dismayed to hear this story when we got back to the car. You could see he considered it an insult to him -- he was cleary feeling embarassed for his own people. He was a survivor of the Killing Fields, but many of his family were not. He had also bootstrapped himself out of that nightmare, married and now had 2 kids who he was very proud to be putting through school. He was still a bit of an idealist after all that mess, and felt that Cambodia could only straigthen itself out by educating the kids and attempting to pass on what culture had not been destroyed.
Off-topic a tad, but your experience struck a chord.
- Balls
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:46 pm on Sep. 17, 2003
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