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BIGDUSA -- I agree with a lot of what you say, but honestly I think your experience has been the typical experience most farangs get the first 15 times they go to BKK. I mean, I don't live there so won't call myself an expert, ok...but i've been 35+ times plus have lived in Asia for 7 years and worked there for 12. Now, at least the first 20 times I went through a standard process of Patpong, then Cowboy, then Nana, maybe Soi 33, with a dose of Thermae thrown in when it was good... but after a while you dig deeper, and go to "real" places and the experience is different. Now, make no mistake, Thailand is unlike any place on earth, and even in "normal" bars there will be working girls. However it is a different scene and it is also possible to find non-working girls. Once you've had that experience your opinion might change.
Now, there's nothing wrong with hanging out with BG's where everyone has fun and everyone gets what they expect -- you fun and sex and they money and fun. Fair cop. If that is what you are into (and who could blame you) I can't say a thing because I think you nailed it on the head.
However, I really want to stress how much more is out there is you are open and willing. All Thai girls are not sluts or whores working for money. Maybe they want men to take "care" of them...but I've known more than my fair share of Western ladies who put money before anything else too...isn't that a female thing rather than a thai thing?
Bottom line is find someone you like, someone you respect, and someone you can have fun with. If that's a BG, then that's ok if that is what makes you happy. At least there's a huge amount of honesty there (unless you are stupid or blinded by your newbie experiences with a thai girl). But I think there is a lot to be said for non-BG thai girls as well and they aren't so easy to find...
just my 2 cents..
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 7:17 pm on Aug. 17, 2002
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BigDUSA
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The Thai girl friend experience is the reason I travel 10k and 24 hours stuck in cell block 18C back in the cheap seats. On the short stays the only girls guys like us can meet are BG. Nothing wrong with BG morally as a guy who grew up poor I can understand why there in the bussiness. But they are working girls. If I lived in LOS I would have no problem meeting and dating normal Thai women or BG. I would have a choice of partners. I aim this type of message to the newbie who comes over and is dassled by the experience and end up falling in love and sponsering some BG who's feeding him a line of BS and is supporting her Thai boyfriend on his money. One of the guys on this board is currently on the receiving end of another guys support. I want to save some guys broken heart.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 8:31 pm on Aug. 17, 2002
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zzzZ
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Yep, I'm with you 100% on that one... when you coming back? I'll be there again second week of Sept.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:06 pm on Aug. 17, 2002
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cmore
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Hey guys, nice to hear from so many of the brothers on this thread, but it looks like we have veered seriously off topic lately (And this is coming from the king of going off topic), so I would like us to try our best to get back on track. The name of this topic is Falling in Love and it was originally started by brother Vinny out of concern for a friend who he is worried might be getting too serious too fast with a Thai lady. He wanted to hear from the brothers about their experiences with Thai women, both good and bad, so that he might know how to better advise his friend. Friends like that aren't easy to come by. As expected the negative reports came in first from the brothers concerning the problems that developed with their wife or girlfriend. However it didn't take long for the positive side of the discussion to come up and for brother Vinny to hear about some of the success stories that have happened with Thai ladies (Maybe it would be better for me to say success stories as of this moment because not even a Jedi can see into the future and success can easily turn into failure when you least expect it). So far brother Vinny has a decent amount of ammunition from both sides of the coin to offer some reasonable advice to his friend but I'm sure that a little extra wouldn't hurt so let's try to hear other positive and negative experiences that other brothers have had with their Thai wives or girlfriend until brother Vinny says that he has all the ammo he needs. Discussions concerning all Thai women in general, whether good or bad would probably be better off moved to a new topic thread. As for brother BigDUSA, it makes me sad to see you standing there with one foot over into the dark side of the Force. I hope you never take that extra step. Peace
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 10:48 pm on Aug. 17, 2002
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MrJoe
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I would say that with the last 2 posts from zzzZ and BigD, we have achieved a nice balance and IMHO they are both spot on.
BTW zzzZ, I didn't mean to suggest that one has to live here to know what's what. You obviously have sufficient experience and of course EVERYONE (even Newbies, which you are not) has a right to an opinion.
Another view to be considered; Even if your TG has a heart of gold and the best intentions, she may still be your downfall. There is baggage from having been a BG for both parties to deal with and sometimes irreparable damgae has been done to the TG. Not to mention the difficulties inherent in a cross-cultural relationship. I'm sorry, but the odds are against you. (But it CAN BE DONE!)
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:49 am on Aug. 18, 2002
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zzzZ
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Hey MrJoe... thanks for your post. One thing though, my girl is not a BG and never was. She's a university graduate, working on computers, but she has done a small amount of freelance to make ends meet but only in the last 6 months. That is over for now (hopefully forever). So, there is still some baggage for sure, but a bit different than the Patpong BG type in my opinion... Still, there are definitely a lot of issues to contend with when you have a thai gf as opposed to other nationality...things are just very different!!! that can be real good, or real bad...
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:06 am on Aug. 18, 2002
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riddle
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Vinnie,
During my last trip to Thailand my friends and we met and talked with several TG. I categorise them in two groups: those who want money and those who have money. However one girl who was on her own holidays in Ko Samui, a member of the last group, is going to marry a young Englishman in February 2003. A true fact is that she drank one bottle of whiskey and screwed every night another farang. I don&' t know why but for me this is a strange habit. She could do it to have fun before she marries the guy and then live with him on a monogamist base. However n=1!
A more positive story is that another girl, a member of group1, who hasn&' t money and is a gg-girl met another guy to marry him. After they fell in love she didn&' t quit working in the bar but quit going with customers, of course she got money from the guy. Again n=1.
The facts is that every girl, whatever their background is, goes for true love, yes even in Thailand where family and money is more important than true love in a relationship.... Times are changing, especially for those girls working in a farang-environment&...
So how can you now if it's true love? And thrust the girls when she is alone? Well I think is to stay with her a period and stay realistic, with a good grasp of the cultural distinctions. (Trial and error) If you have doubts about her just quit the relationship, how harsh it can be for yourself. Maybe this sounds too analytic, but it worked out for me (even with my non-Thai girlfriends)
Riddle
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 9:45 am on Aug. 18, 2002
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cmore
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Hey guys, nice to see this topic getting the focus back. Z Man, I've said it before and I'll say it again, you're alright in my book. I don't know if your ladies freelance period happened before or after you met her, but as far as my lady is concerned I choose to adopt the philosophy that what she did before I met her ain't my business (The same applies to her). What matters now is what happens next. Everyone has a past (although I will admit that a Thai woman's past can be more than a little colorful to say the least), but if you choose to focus on the past then you might as well end it now because you don't stand a chance of making it work. I'm not saying to block out the past completely, just file it away further back in your mind under Q or R rather than up front under C or D. Trust me, there's no way I will ever be able to file my ladies past permanently in the Z section. Why? Because the last guy she fell for 5 years ago left her with a sizeable parting gift, 8 pounds and 7 ounces (Personally I would have preferred jewelry  ). The past will always be there, for both of you, but it sounds like you've adopted a positive approach to your relationship so more power to you. Enjoy this time brother Z, just keep looking out of the corner of your eye for falling footware. I do, trust me (That shoe is poised directly over the last remaining sane section of my brain so I'm looking from all 4 corners, believe me). And should that shoe ever drop at least I can say it was worth it for many reasons, but one very special reason in particular. The night I met my lady she talked about her son and how he lives with her parents because it hurts so much to be around him or even look at him because of how much he reminds her of his father. That was 3 months ago and since then I've done my best to try and help her see her son in a more positive light. I even sent him a present last month for his birthday (And was shocked as hell to find out that it actually made it all the way to Udon Thani without a problem). Now here it is 3 months later and the two of them are talking and calling each other on the phone all the time (and that's one bill I'm very glad to help her out with). Are things going to work out for the two of us (Pardon me, 3 of us)? I can't even hazard a guess at this point. What I can say is that if things don't work out at least I will take away with me lots of good feelings and experiences and one very precious memory. That there is a very sweet young man in Udon Thani that may have just gotten his mother back. Peace
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Thai Girls : Meet Active Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:09 am on Aug. 18, 2002
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vinny
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Cmore, your last post brought a tear to my eye. May your joint happiness continue to blossom - I for one am routing for you - c u soon!
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 11:23 am on Aug. 18, 2002
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cmore
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Hey brother Vinny, thanks for the words of encouragement. I know I can be an opinionated ass some times (Only some times?) but this a very dear subject with me and I would like to see things hopefully work out for your friend as they have (so far) worked out with me. I hate going off topic again but how are things going with getting your passport situation taken care of? Hope everything will turn out okay. I'll let you know more about dinner soon after I hear back from my lady and brother Mr. Joe. Let us know how things work out for you. Peace
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 11:37 am on Aug. 18, 2002
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