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OK here is bias:
UGA would beat LSU, Ohio State and anybody with the way they were playing at the end...but we couldnt pull it out against SC or when we got our asses handed to us by TENN...so we have nobody to blame but ourselves..we didnt deserve it this year..
but look out for UGA next year!!!! sophmore QB and Freshman RB that brings hershel walker to mind..maybe I am dreaming but when we started knowshan against Florida our season changed....
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Posted on: 9:14 am on Jan. 9, 2008
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IBFarang
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Quote: from Mr Alan on 9:12 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
I am going to have to disagree about that.
You can disagree if you want but it does not change the fact that it is true. Straight from the BCS web sight:
“The BCS is….The Bowl Chamionship Series (BCS) is a five-game arrangement for post-seanson college football that is designed to match the two top-rated teams in a national championship game and to create exciting and competitive matchups between eight other highly regarded teams in four other games.”
And if you think the pollsters did not consider the BCS rules regarding selection when making their final poll votes your nuts. For the final submission both AP voters, and coaches were certainly casting their votes based upon what they know about how the BCS works and therefore who they wanted to see in the Championship game (not necessarily who they thought were the best teams). I do also blame the pollsters but I blame them because they cast their final votes based upon how the BCS system works - and not on a true ranking of the teams at the end of the year.
Missouri is a classic case of a team screwed by the BCS – because of the stupid BCS rule about not allowing more than two teams from any conference into the BCS series Missouri got stuck out in the cold playing in a non-BCS bowl while other teams ranked lower than them got into BCS bowl games.
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Posted on: 5:44 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from IBFarang on 7:59 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
“The BCS is….The Bowl Chamionship Series (BCS) is a five-game arrangement for post-seanson college football that is designed to match the two top-rated teams in a national championship game and to create exciting and competitive matchups between eight other highly regarded teams in four other games.”
And if you think the pollsters did not consider the BCS rules regarding selection when making their final poll votes your nuts. For the final submission both AP voters, and coaches were certainly casting their votes based upon what they know about how the BCS works and therefore who they wanted to see in the Championship game (not necessarily who they thought were the best teams). I do also blame the pollsters but I blame them because they cast their final votes based upon how the BCS system works - and not on a true ranking of the teams at the end of the year.
Missouri is a classic case of a team screwed by the BCS – because of the stupid BCS rule about not allowing more than two teams from any conference into the BCS series Missouri got stuck out in the cold playing in a non-BCS bowl while other teams ranked lower than them got into BCS bowl games.
What? The pollsters vote for the top 2 teams (and all the others). What the F--- are you talking about? Before the BCS they voted the same way.
Before the BCS the bowls had contracts with conferences, and the 3rd place finisher in the Big 12 did not play in the top 4 bowl games. My recollection is that the 3rd place Big 12 team played in the Holiday or Cotton Bowl, but certainly not the Sugar/Rose/Fiesta/Orange. So, in effect, the same 2 team max per conference existed before the BCS.
BTW, the conferences share the bowl proceeds among all of the teams in the conference, so if anyone got screwed, it was the entire Big 12, who ended up with 4 teams in the top 10 (Kansas, Mizzu, OK, Texas).
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Posted on: 6:10 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
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Quote: from Mr Alan on 9:25 am on Jan. 10, 2008
What? The pollsters vote for the top 2 teams (and all the others). What the F--- are you talking about? Before the BCS they voted the same way.
They voted the same method, but in the final vote this year they (the voters) certainly considered what the consequences of their vote would be considering how the BCS makes their bowl selections.
In all but the coaches poll Georgia was fourth ahead of LSU leading up to the final vote to decide who played in the BCS games. In every poll except the coaches poll the following week (the poll that decided who played in the BCS games) Georgia was leap-frogged by both Oklahoma and LSU.
Why? Because of all the talk about not wanting a non-conference champ in the BCS Championship game. Hell Oklahoma went from 9 to 3 in that one week in the AP, and from 8 to 3 in the Harris. Thur the magic of the polls LSU went from 7 to 2 in that one week. Jumping over Missouri, West Virginia, Kansas, Georgia, and Virginia Tech? OK, Missouri, West Virginia, and Kansas all lost their game – but Georgia and VT did not lose. Georgia did not play; but neither did Ohio State so why didn’t LSU jump over OSU as well? (Some would say because OSU had only one loss – but that one loss was fairly recent and was to Illinois - not exactly a top tier team) VT not only played but they won their conference championship game and still got jumped by LSU (some would say this happened because VT had lost to LSU earlier in the season - so why were they ranked higher than LSU the week earlier).
The eight-team playoff is a much better fit – and as I outlined earlier would not require any schedule adjustments to fit in the three weeks of play. The early bowls this year were played over the 21-22 weekend (week one of the playoff), the majority of the bowls played over the following week (week two of the playoffs), and the Championship game was played the next week (final playoff game).
Yes you will still have teams that are nine, ten, eleven bitching about being left out but what are the chances of a nine, ten, or eleven seed winning it all? And if you have the best team then there is no reason to bitch if you are a six, seven, eight seed because no matter who you draw if you are indeed the best team you will beat them no matter which of the three weeks you play them.
Also with eight-team system the four major bowls still get their bowls (Rose, Sugar, Fiesta, Orange). Hell with the eight-team system three of the four would get at least two bowl games each year.
The real question becomes how many fans could swing making it to three weeks of away games? Therefore would they actually make more money? That is the real question the schools are asking themselves - not what is the best method, but which method will bring in the most cash.
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Posted on: 8:44 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
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From what I have heard and read lately, the main stumbling block against a play off system is the Big Ten and Pac Ten. They do not want to give up the very lucrative Rose Bowl and are willing to let this controversy continue unabated.
I have also read there are some conferences that are beginning to think of doing it, regardless of what the Big Ten and Pac Ten say.
I agree with IBF on this issue. An 8 school playoff could be arranged by taking the six major conference champs and adding two of the remaining best at-large, regardless of which conference they were from. If the SEC or Big 12 get three teams in, so what?
Seed them on their strength of schedule, record, point differential, first downs or number of penalties (tongue in cheek, here, Mr. Alan) from one to eight and play them in the bowl games. A typical 8 team tournament would be played as follows:
1 vs 8
2 vs 7
3 vs 6
4 vs 5
If the higher rated teams win, it goes:
1 vs 4
2 vs 3
If the higher rated teams win yet again, it goes:
1 vs 2
Viola, you have a legitimate national champion.
Oh, by the way, the best record in the nation, forget Hawaii, belonged to Kansas at 12-1. They lost only to Missouri, Number THREE, by a 38-26 score and beat number FIVE Virginia Tech 24-21 in the Orange Bowl.
My feeling is to take it out of the hands of sports writers, school administrators and coaches and settle it on the field.
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Posted on: 9:55 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from IBFarang on 10:59 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
In all but the coaches poll Georgia was fourth ahead of LSU leading up to the final vote to decide who played in the BCS games. In every poll except the coaches poll the following week (the poll that decided who played in the BCS games) Georgia was leap-frogged by both Oklahoma and LSU.
You are omitting some important facts. LSU leapfrogged Georgia because the beat Tennessee in the SEC championship game (Georgia lost to Tennessee by 21 points). This affected the polls, and it affected the computer ranking formulas.
Same thing with Oklahoma, when they beat Mizzu in Big 12 championship game.
So when a team wins the conference championship by beating a highly ranked team, it is not unusual for them to go higher in the rankings.
BTW, the AP no longer participates in the BCS formula, it is the Coaches poll and the Harris poll (the BCS requires that votes are made public and the AP refused), plus the computer rankings.
Now, notice that expatchuck wants the conference champs to get auto bids to the 8 team playoff. But there is no guarantee that these will be the top 8 ranked teams, and in fact, they would likely include teams barely ranked in the top 25. So there is going to be a lot more arguing, bitching, moaning, pissing, etc about who gets the 8 bids in a playoff system, and their seeding, then anyone ever experiences today in figuring out who is 1 and 2 for the BCS championship game.
The reason why a playoff looks like a good idea is that the media has brainwashed the public into thinking the current BCS system is bad, without explaining the problems a playoff system will have (like deciding who gets into the playoff and the seedings). The media people get paid to write stories and do broadcasts, and this provides them free material every year without having to do any real work or research. If a playoff is instituted, it will create even more (not less) controversy, which is exactly what the lazy-ass media types want, so they get more free/cheap material for their broadcasts.
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Posted on: 11:00 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from IBFarang on 10:59 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
The real question becomes how many fans could swing making it to three weeks of away games? Therefore would they actually make more money? That is the real question the schools are asking themselves - not what is the best method, but which method will bring in the most cash.
This is a good point, because people cannot make travel plans that quickly. You would end up with lots of empty seats and empty hotel rooms/restaurants. If you look at the NCAA tourney games, they often play to "less than capacity" crowds until the Final 4. It is a lot easier for fans to travel over the Christmas-New Year’s holidays, than it is during the middle of December. For the current bowl games, the teams (and many of the fans) spend an entire week at the bowl game site, which a lot of extra revenue for the city and businesses.
Notice that the NFL playoffs are always played at the home team venue (not a neutral site) because it is too hard to get fans to travel on one week’s notice. The exception is the Super Bowl, but that has 2 weeks notice, and most of the people who attend the Super Bowl are not residents of the teams home state anyway (mostly a bunch of rich people who go to party and don’t care who wins).
With the US going completely to digital TV in February 2009, a lot more people are going to be getting HD (high definition) TV sets. Once you start watching sports on a HD TV set, it is harder to travel out of state to a sporting event unless you can wrap a long vacation around it, as is often done with the current college bowl games.
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Posted on: 11:16 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
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Quote: from IBFarang on 12:59 pm on Jan. 10, 2008
The real question becomes how many fans could swing making it to three weeks of away games? Therefore would they actually make more money? That is the real question the schools are asking themselves - not what is the best method, but which method will bring in the most cash.
But it is not the fans who make the money for the school. At the individual game level it is the television revenue that really brings in the cash.
So set up a playoff series and split the television revenue where the teams playing take the lion's share and a lesser amount go to the conferences they represent.
I am sure that some sports network will pay big bucks to have the exclusive rights to a NCAA Football Playoff.
Hell it works for basketball...
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Posted on: 2:16 am on Jan. 10, 2008
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Quote: from Mr Alan on 2:15 pm on Jan. 10, 2008
You are omitting some important facts. LSU leapfrogged Georgia because the beat Tennessee in the SEC championship game (Georgia lost to Tennessee by 21 points). This affected the polls, and it affected the computer ranking formulas....
...If a playoff is instituted, it will create even more (not less) controversy,....
And how did VT get leap-frogged? They won their conference championship game as well.
I fail to see how a playoff system would create more controversy. As I said earlier the teams in the playoff should care less about the actual seeding because they would all play on a natural field and if they are indeed the best team then they should be able to win three straight no matter which of the other seven they have to play (or when they play them over the three week playoff). And with eight teams there would not be much controversy over who got left out because it is very unlikely that a nine, ten, or eleven ranked team could win out thru the playoffs anyway.
Playoff note:
I just had a quick look at a calendar and think I am on to a new holiday tradition. Playoff week 1 (X-mas day – heck before long folks might take to calling it football day), week 2 New Years day, and the championship game one week later (just like this year). There is the whole three weeks starting at chirstmas, and ending no later than it did this year.
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Posted on: 2:50 am on Jan. 10, 2008
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Mr Alan
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Quote: from IBFarang on 5:05 am on Jan. 10, 2008
I fail to see how a playoff system would create more controversy. As I said earlier the teams in the playoff should care less about the actual seeding because they would all play on a natural field and if they are indeed the best team then they should be able to win three straight no matter which of the other seven they have to play (or when they play them over the three week playoff). And with eight teams there would not be much controversy over who got left out because it is very unlikely that a nine, ten, or eleven ranked team could win out thru the playoffs anyway.
WTF are you smoking?
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Posted on: 5:09 am on Jan. 10, 2008
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