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Mick,

I'd be interested to hear that too.


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Posted on: 6:37 pm on Dec. 12, 2010
expatchuck
I had a brain scan once. They didn't find anything.


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Posted on: 11:15 pm on Dec. 12, 2010
MickTheKick
Ok guys, I'll see what I can find...

But Marc, you missed the point... err... I wasn't able to explain the point properly...

One widely known cure is to 'mask' your tinnitus sound. That works basicly the same way masking of noise in a noise reduction earphone works... They give some *complementary* sound to the sound you hear from tinnitus. I don't believe in this cure because it focuses on an accoustic effect... And something tells me that tinnitus is anything but an accoustic problem... In phylogenesis your brain is related to your spinal cord... that kind of stuff ye know...

The theory and cure I was talking about does exactly the opposite. They give you a sound that is as close as can be to your imagined tinnitus sound thereby giving your idle wild oscillating brain or nerve cells something to chew on where they are otherwise only idle oscillating... And this might have the potential to get them cells straight and give up idle wild oscillating... hehehe... Hey, I know this is not a very scientific explanation, but all science is just an approximation anyway... So I just approximate in my own way...

Ok, I'll go cheking...


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Posted on: 1:01 pm on Dec. 13, 2010
MickTheKick
Ok, I found it... in German, so...

It seems to be a shooting star in German tinnitus cure...

They call it "akkustische Neuromodulation" which translate to "accoustic neuro modulation" or even in English: "Coordinated Reset (CR) ". From here you should be able to find something in your country. No idea if it is as widespread in other countries as it seems to be already in Germany...

Here's a link to the award winning company that developed the cure and the little hight tech gadget with lots of info (in German *and* English!! trara!) :

http://www.anm-medical.com/

Let me know if I can be of any further help...


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Posted on: 3:27 pm on Dec. 13, 2010
marc69
Many thanks Mick for all your efforts and help. It does sound promising. I have sent the link you provided to my doctor and asked if he knows anything about it. If I get any useful information I will certainly report it here.


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Posted on: 4:37 pm on Dec. 13, 2010
thailien
Mick, great work, thank you.
marc, I know how you're feeling. I remember when my tinnitus was just kicking in as yours is now. I was definitely a bit panicked by this constant screaming in my right ear. I could never hear silence again, and was afraid it would get louder. I was drinking more and popping a pill to sleep. The sound was hard to ignore.

But as time went on, I found that I was aware of it much less of the time. The brain is able to tune out much clutter, even tinnitus. I'd say be optimistic and patient. Use any masking sounds that help you, but don't panic and don't spend a lot on an unproven "cure". In time you will be able to tune it out most of the time.


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Posted on: 3:31 am on Jan. 3, 2011
marc69
Thailien, thanks for sharing your experience and your advice. It is great to hear that it does get better in time. I have been able to sleep without popping sleeping pills since January 1 which is great. I just use white noise to distract my brain from hearing the noise from my ear when I go to bed and it seems to help.

I am in Bangkok now and have been seeing a doctor at Bumrungrad at EENT center. They have done several hearing tests and I have got some medicine but my doctor said the medicine helps only in 40-50% of cases so I don't have much hope in the medication. I did also a blood test today and they have advised to watch more carefully what I eat as it seems that high cholesterol has some indirect impact on tinnitus.


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Posted on: 11:33 am on Jan. 11, 2011
thailien
Hi Marc,

Glad to be of help with this. If you're in Bkk., can we meet and talk about it. You can email me at alalew@gmail.com

I would not give Bumrungrad any more of your money. They are happy to take your money, and over-prescribe pills. Bumrungrad will not cure your tinnitus. Time, patience, and acceptance will help you more.

You are lucky that your hearing is not diminished by tinnitus.
Mine sure is. If we meet, please speak loudly enough for me to hear you.


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Posted on: 11:47 am on Jan. 11, 2011
expatchuck
This is a lengthy article out today. I thought you folks might find it informative.

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'Rebooting' brain could ease ringing in ears

Jan 12 02:46 PM US/Eastern

Scientists have found a way to ease chronic ringing in the ears, known as tinnitus, by stimulating a neck nerve and playing sounds to reboot the brain, according to research published Wednesday.
There is currently no cure for tinnitus, which can range from annoying to debilitating and affects as many as 23 million adults in the United States, including one in 10 seniors and 40 percent of military veterans.

For Gloria Chepko, 66, who has suffered from tinnitus since she was four years old, the sound she describes as "like crickets... but also bell-like," gets worse when she is tired.

"It's awful," she said. "Sometimes it is very loud, and it will get loud if I am under stress or if I have been going for a very long time and I am fatigued," she said.

"If my mind is tired and I sit down I will only hear this sound."

For some people, such as military veterans who are left with hearing damage after exposure to loud blasts and gunfire, the noise -- which could also sound like roaring, whooshing or clicking -- interferes with their ability to lead a normal life.

The US Veterans Administration spends one billion dollars per year on disability payments related to tinnitus, the most common service-related ailment in soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan, industry experts say.

Scientists believe the disorder is caused by hearing loss or nerve damage, to which the brain tries but fails to adjust.

"Brain changes in response to nerve damage or cochlear trauma cause irregular neural activity believed to be responsible for many types of chronic pain and tinnitus," said Michael Kilgard of the University of Texas, co-author of the study in the journal Nature.

"We believe the part of the brain that processes sounds -- the auditory cortex -- delegates too many neurons to some frequencies, and things begin to go awry," he said.

To fix that, researchers used rats to test a theory that they could reset the brain by retraining it so that errant neurons return to their normal state.

In rats with tinnitus, they electrically stimulated the vagus nerve, which runs from the head through the neck to the abdomen, in combination with playing a certain high-pitched tone.

When stimulated, the nerve can encourage changes in the brain by releasing chemicals such as acetylcholine and norepinephrine that act as neurotransmitters.

Rats that underwent the pairing of noise and stimulation experienced a halt to the ringing sounds for up to three and a half months, while control rats that received just noise or just stimulation did not.

An examination of neural responses in the auditory cortexes showed normal levels in the rats who were treated with the combination of stimulation and sound, indicating the tinnitus had disappeared.

The treatment "not only reorganized the neurons to respond to their original frequencies, but it also made the brain responses sharper," the study said.

"The key is that, unlike previous treatments, we're not masking the tinnitus, we're not hiding the tinnitus," said Kilgard.

"We are returning the brain from a state where it generates tinnitus to a state that does not generate tinnitus. We are eliminating the source of the tinnitus."

Clinical trials are expected to begin on humans in the coming months, with the first trials starting in Europe, according to lead study author Navzer Engineer.

The process of vagus nerve stimulation, known as VNS, is already being used in the treatment of around 50,000 people with epilepsy or depression, the study said.

"This minimally invasive method of generating neural plasticity allows us to precisely manipulate brain circuits, which cannot be achieved with drugs," said Engineer.

"Pairing sounds with VNS provides that precision by rewiring damaged circuits and reversing the abnormal activity that generates the phantom sound."

Like many sufferers, Chepko has learned to cope with the noise.

"I have to find some other way to relax to just endure it, take a bath or do stretches or just lie down and stare or read a book, depending on how bad it is," she said.

"I have kind of lived around it, or over it."


The link:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.f57c40c34c2baca8600a698953d82048.1e1&show_article=1



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Posted on: 11:14 pm on Jan. 12, 2011
marc69
Thanks expatchuck for the article. It sure sounds promising. It would be interesting to see the results of clinical trials on humans. The article mentions they will start in Europe but does not specify in which country. If you get more information on this please post it here.


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Posted on: 12:34 am on Jan. 13, 2011
     

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